Funny thing about black and white. You mix it together and you get gray. And it doesn't matter how much white you try and put back in, you're never gonna get anything but gray.

Lilah ,'Destiny'


Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - May 07, 2014 5:10:27 pm PDT #27127 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

It's a legume.

So not a vegetable. I'm assuming, since you didn't say yes, it is a vegetable.

I'm frustrated, because I literally cannot think of another way to phrase what seemed to me like a yes-or-no question.


Hil R. - May 07, 2014 5:11:49 pm PDT #27128 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

See edit. "Vegetable" is used a lot of different ways, most of them contradicting each other. It's a vegetable, or part of a vegetable, by some of those definitions.


-t - May 07, 2014 5:13:52 pm PDT #27129 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I consider it a vegetable. But if I needed some protein and I had edamame, that would do. They are a wonder food that can fit multiple niches.

I would not consider peanuts a vegetable, even though they are also legumes. I'm pretty sure that's wrong-headed of me, but there it is.

There's probably a tariff ruling that could clear this up.


Steph L. - May 07, 2014 5:14:21 pm PDT #27130 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Fair enough. I'll just eat it and consider it not a Twinkie and therefore a win.

(Honestly, in my quest to eat more vegetables, when I can't figure out is something even qualifies as a vegetable, it makes me want to give up.)

(I learned long ago that the corn-and-potatoes-aren't-REALLY-vegetables-and-carrots-barely-count ship has sailed. I was hoping other things that grow in the ground would be more clear cut.)


Jesse - May 07, 2014 5:15:19 pm PDT #27131 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

You can make a quest to eat more plants?


meara - May 07, 2014 5:15:55 pm PDT #27132 of 30000

Well, Teppy, do you consider other beans veggies? I would say I'm more likely to consider edamame a veggie because (a) it's green and (b) sometimes it's in veggie mixes, but generally I'd think it is in the "legumes" category, more?


Steph L. - May 07, 2014 5:17:36 pm PDT #27133 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

You can make a quest to eat more plants?

I know, but things that grow in the ground don't get counted as vegetables, like corn! I have one sanctimonious friend on FB who never EVER missed the opportunity to tell me I'm not eating vegetables if I think corn and carrots are vegetables. (They're "really sugar", according to her.)

Pfft. Next thing she'll tell me Corn Nuts aren't nutritious! Especially the BBQ flavor!


-t - May 07, 2014 5:18:40 pm PDT #27134 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I don't think I understand what would make something that is a plant or part of a plant not qualify as a vegetable.


Steph L. - May 07, 2014 5:20:16 pm PDT #27135 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

do you consider other beans veggies?

Green beans/string beans (are they the same???) and lima beans, yes. Are snow peas beans? Peas are legumes, right? But they seem like veggies to me. I think, like you said, it might be the fact they're green.

But then I wouldn't think of chickpeas, black beans, or kidney beans as veggies.

I really just want to be able to count my servings of veggies and know I actually ate veggies and not some impostor that's really a starchy protein/legume/something.

Damn it, back to Corn Nuts.

(I do love Corn Nuts.)


Consuela - May 07, 2014 5:20:22 pm PDT #27136 of 30000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Pffle to your friends, Tep. Corn and carrots are totally vegetable. They're not greens, and they contain more carbs/starches than, say, kale, but they're still vegetables, and better for you than potato chips.