All right, no one's killing folk today, on account of our very tight schedule.

Mal ,'Trash'


Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Hil R. - May 04, 2014 1:48:30 pm PDT #26799 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Oy. Vegan internet drama is ridiculous. There have been a whole bunch of books in the past few years advocating going vegan as a way to lose weight and get healthy, most of them also advocating no sugar, no oil, no processed foods, often no soy, no white flour, and a whole bunch of other things that these books claim will cure all your health problems and make you live until you're 120 or whatever. And now, in vegan food forums, just about any time that anyone posts a photo of delicious-looking food, it's met with a ton of, "That has tofu! Don't you know that tofu will destroy your fertility?" and "How can you possibly feed something containing SUGAR to your children?" and, my favorite, "Being vegan is about being healthy, so processed food like that is NOT vegan" comments. But I think this just hit a new level of ridic. VegNews magazine posted a photo of some vegan food they found at JazzFest -- a really yummy-looking Gambian dish with tofu and vegetables and peanut sauce, over rice. And, in addition to the usual comments about the tofu, someone posted that the vegetables look like they've been cooked until they're soft, and he only likes crispy vegetables, and therefore this photo is not at all appetizing, and they shouldn't post an unappetizing photo like that because it's not a good advertisement for veganism.


Connie Neil - May 04, 2014 1:59:12 pm PDT #26800 of 30000
brillig

Religious orthodoxy comes in all flavors.


Jesse - May 04, 2014 2:01:15 pm PDT #26801 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Mostly I just sit around, regardless of day or time.

And, in addition to the usual comments about the tofu, someone posted that the vegetables look like they've been cooked until they're soft, and he only likes crispy vegetables, and therefore this photo is not at all appetizing, and they shouldn't post an unappetizing photo like that because it's not a good advertisement for veganism.

Ah ha ha! People are ridic.


Hil R. - May 04, 2014 2:03:01 pm PDT #26802 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

The whole "veganism will cure all your health problems!" thing really annoys me. There have been a ton of books in the past few years making that claim, all of them with a bunch of "testimonials" from people who say they became vegan and their supposedly terminal cancer disappeared. And just about all of these authors have been on Oprah promoting their books, some of them multiple times. And it's garbage, and it makes veganism look like a completely unscientific fad diet, rather than an ethical stance.


msbelle - May 04, 2014 2:07:50 pm PDT #26803 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

exercise
stretching

meditation
wrangling the clutter a bit in my room
and also eating more

resting before heading to my room to meditate, then wrangle. I fear I may fall asleep before that though.

Exercising everyday is gonna be HARD for my outta shape self.


billytea - May 04, 2014 2:12:45 pm PDT #26804 of 30000
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

And now, in vegan food forums, just about any time that anyone posts a photo of delicious-looking food, it's met with a ton of, "That has tofu! Don't you know that tofu will destroy your fertility?" and "How can you possibly feed something containing SUGAR to your children?"

Totally wrong-headed. I've found on numerous occasions that in fact it's remarkably easy to feed sugar to children. They don't fight you about it at all.

Though now I'm curious as to how China reached 1.3 billion people despite 2,000 years of tofu oppression.


Ginger - May 04, 2014 2:17:44 pm PDT #26805 of 30000
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I don't want to eat soy.

I don't think the current state of the research is compelling enough for you to eat something you don't like.


Typo Boy - May 04, 2014 2:20:17 pm PDT #26806 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I don't think there is any one food you can't do without. I suppose if it were a whole nutritional category, that would be different. "I can't stand protein." "I hate fat." "Carbs ugh." But short of taste problems that broad, most people are fine avoiding stuff they hate.


Typo Boy - May 04, 2014 2:23:30 pm PDT #26807 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Plus, I suspect really really disliking a food is a sign that it is not good for you. I just wish the reverse were true, that food that you find tasty was automatically healthy for you.

And what do Buffistas think of the generic "you" anyway? Better than the royal "we" or pretentious "one" but maybe still something to avoid?


le nubian - May 04, 2014 2:25:13 pm PDT #26808 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I don't think the current state of the research is compelling enough for you to eat something you don't like.

(laughing out loud)

touché.