I want to torture you. I used to love it, and it's been a long time. I mean, the last time I tortured someone, they didn't even have chainsaws.

Angel ,'Chosen'


Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Juliebird - Apr 12, 2014 3:33:26 pm PDT #25029 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Had about 24 volunteers today. Between dashing back and forth between each project, my ankle is killing me. (Even the right one is unhappy with me). Got lots of great work done (but omg was the rose garden devastated from the winter. They must have taken out fifty bushes). And the kids from the local private academy continue to impress me with their maturity, integrity, and inclusiveness.

Now to fill out my scrip for a topical anti-inflammatory. I still have conflicting info from the orthopedist and physical therapist as to brace/compression sock as a preventative measure as I'm running back and forth for hours at a time. Medicine, why are you so fickle?! Maybe I'll get a third opinion from my Chiro who does sports medicine.

(And, no, autocorrect, when I misspell medicine, I do not mean meat ovine, how is that the better option?).


sarameg - Apr 12, 2014 4:34:07 pm PDT #25030 of 30000

I was supposed to go out tonight with friends but had a fall-down-uncoping, so I finished priming the bases of the spindles. And laundered couch covers.

Plotting going back to the hardware store so maybe I can strip the rest of the front porch railing.

...and I wonder why I suddenly run out of steam.


Theodosia - Apr 12, 2014 4:37:08 pm PDT #25031 of 30000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I'm watching Django Unchained on the TV.


§ ita § - Apr 12, 2014 6:09:45 pm PDT #25032 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My sister has asked me to write a pretend abstract for this call for papers by the Southwest Popular/American Culture Association conference, and has requested no more than 300 words describing a paper on Supernatural (she considered "the works of Joss Whedon" and then discarded it as not amusing enough).

She's a fucking anthropology PhD! And I have never written an abstract in my life.

(Perhaps unsurprisingly my fake paper is called "Supernatural: Queering the Subtext" but how much blather can I generate? I'm only at 124 words so far.)

(She intends to attend the conference, not at all because it's in ABQ and she enjoys Breaking Bad location visits, or because of her newfound love of the rodeo. Not at all. She'd never pick conferences location first.)


DebetEsse - Apr 12, 2014 6:30:19 pm PDT #25033 of 30000
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I hate writing abstracts, and that's too far out of my field for me to be significantly helpful.


§ ita § - Apr 12, 2014 6:35:28 pm PDT #25034 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think what I jimmied up as a first attempt says as much about my unfamiliarity with papers (I wrote all of one in university, and got a poor grade) as anything else:

Supernatural is nine seasons into a subtle and implicit challenge of gender and sexual norms. A cult TV show about two overt embodiments of the masculine archetype--violence, alcohol, and loose women--persists with a subtext of a nurturing maternal role as well as casual acceptance of bisexual attraction. Writing, direction, and acting are complicit in preventing the contradictions from being a source of hilarity, mockery, or judgement, as the show's primary alpha male goes about soothing, raising, and bashfully flirting with men as a counterpoint to his brash womanising and stereotypical conceptual merging of sexual and combative prowess. This paper explores the concept using script, metatextual analysis, and cast interviews to describe and explore the overlay of the commonplace with the queering of the text.

aka ALL the bullshit


aurelia - Apr 12, 2014 6:36:28 pm PDT #25035 of 30000
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Anyone want to pitch a sitcom? [link]

I should've been more productive today because I suddenly have plans to see Peter and the Starcatcher tomorrow.


Strix - Apr 12, 2014 6:56:52 pm PDT #25036 of 30000
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Supernatural is nine seasons into a subtle and implicit challenge of gender and sexual norms. A cult TV show about two brothers who act as overt embodiments of the masculine archetype,-- i.e., the protagonists reliance on violence and alcohol, and the explicit portrayals of heteronormative male/female gender dynamics vis a vis sexuality --persists, but these traditional gender norming tropes are mixed with a subtext of a nurturing maternal role. However, the casual acceptance of bisexual attraction pulls a bait-and-switch with the explicit heteronorming of the main male characters; writing, direction, and acting are complicit in preventing the contradictions therein from being a source of hilarity, mockery, or judgement, as the show's primary alpha male is portrayed as soothing, raising, and bashfully flirting with men as a counterpoint to his brash womanising and stereotypical conceptual merging of sexual and combative prowess. This paper explores the concept using script, metatextual analysis, and cast interviews to describe and explore the overlay of the commonplace with the queering of the text.

I added some blather!


Vortex - Apr 12, 2014 6:59:45 pm PDT #25037 of 30000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Or she could try to combine the two (or three if you count Joss) and also submit for "The Apocalypse and Disaster in Culture" Actually, that could be an interesting paper -- how the apocalypse is represented in popular culture in various media. (and for the record, I still vote 'apocalypti')


meara - Apr 12, 2014 7:00:48 pm PDT #25038 of 30000

Sounds good, ita, though it seems your title ("Queering the Subtext") might not quite go with that--they're not so much queering the subtext as the...text? Along the "subtext is rapidly becoming text" idea?