Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton fought tirelessly for abolition of slavery, but campaigned against limiting the franchise to men in the 15th amendment. They split with the abolitionist movement over the issue and formed a new group to fight for women's rights. The fight for women's suffrage had been explicitly put on the back burner until slavery was ended, so they were pissed off to be told that this was the blacks' moment and women had to wait. They did use some inflammatory language in arguing the injustice of giving the vote to ignorant men but not educated women, but they were justifiably angry. Sojourner Truth originally opposed the 15th amendment for that reason, but ultimately supported it as better than nothing.
It's my estimation that... every man ever got a statue made of him, was one kind of sumbitch or another.
Mal ,'Jaynestown'
Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Ginger - Jul 24, 2013 10:31:44 am PDT #239 of 30000
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
msbelle - Jul 24, 2013 10:48:43 am PDT #240 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
I was really thinking Spencer and Michael would be in the names.
Last night we came up with George Spencer Michael somethingsomething Wigglesworth.
le nubian - Jul 24, 2013 11:30:08 am PDT #241 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
apparently the 'Louis' part of the name is to be pronounced: lou-eeee not lew-is.
I now want to call the baby Jorge.
§ ita § - Jul 24, 2013 11:39:00 am PDT #242 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I knew he was named after a Frenchman! Only thing that made sense.
I suppose it's good to (still) be the person who gets calls like "Can you tell your boss not to think X?" but oy. Making people think things (or not think them) is a highly variant power.
Also, the meeting is making my headache kill me, so car naptime.
§ ita § - Jul 24, 2013 11:49:55 am PDT #243 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
This isn't good stuff (it's pretty awful), but it makes me sniffly the way good stuff does, because it has some good peeps: [link]
Hil R. - Jul 24, 2013 12:12:57 pm PDT #244 of 30000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
I sorted through most of the mail, unpacked about half of a suitcase, and made one scrapbook page. This was not quite my plan.
Sue - Jul 24, 2013 1:00:11 pm PDT #245 of 30000
hip deep in pie
apparently the 'Louis' part of the name is to be pronounced: lou-eeee not lew-is.
As is the only way to say it.
Signed, Grandfather was a frenchman named Louis.
JZ - Jul 24, 2013 1:40:18 pm PDT #246 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
I now want to call the baby Jorge.
When he finally ascends the throne, you can call him Jefe.
I'm still sad nobody smuggled a Longbottom in there (Potter would surely have been too much to hope for, but wouldn't that have rocked?).
Thus endeth the extent of my caring about the royal baby, since I'm unlikely to ever get a shot at nibbling his toes.
Sheryl - Jul 24, 2013 1:47:23 pm PDT #247 of 30000
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"
Timelies all!
Nova is meowing incessantly at us. Probably wants dinner.
le nubian - Jul 24, 2013 1:57:15 pm PDT #248 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
When he finally ascends the throne, you can call him Jefe.
I doubt I'll be alive then. I might see his father hit the throne, but no way his son.