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After the American Civil War, both Stanton and Anthony broke with their abolitionist backgrounds and lobbied strongly against ratification of the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments to the US Constitution, which granted African American men the right to vote... Eventually, Stanton's oppositional rhetoric took on racial overtones.

I'm reading this [link] and I'm confused by this Stanton lady. It sounds like she argued both for and against civil rights causes, but by virtue of having lobbied for any, puts herself ahead of many of her peers (depression of low bar). How destructive were her arguments against?

The only thing I know is that she argued against giving black men the right to vote, on the grounds that the vote shouldn't be extended to any other group before it was extended to women. She was on the losing side of that one, but I don't know how much influence her opinions had.

To white land-owning women, yeah?

le nub, I'm not in CA, so I don't know if there is a law change. I just know that at my dentist, if they discover something more needs to be done than what I came in for, I get informed, I get to review the related costs, and then I have to sign off on my agreement before they start that work.

Going through that process 5 times? A bit excessive unless little things changed between each notice.

To white land-owning women, yeah?

White women, at any rate. Preferably educated ones. I think the land-owning thing was a separate issue, since in a bunch of states, women weren't allowed to own land under most circumstances. (I think that they could inherit it from a man, but couldn't buy it themselves, or something like that.)

Oh yeah, le n, that sounds excessive, but better than the no-info way of things?

(I think that they could inherit it from a man, but couldn't buy it themselves, or something like that.)

That sounds right, I think.

I read that before I asked, Tom. But after that, the article notes she also supported interracial marriage, sent congrats to Douglass against the advice of Anthony, etc. She seemed to be really offensive about jockeying for position (but also claimed black men already had the vote), which is why I wonder what the impact was, because the stuff she was pro put her ahead of the pack--but if she damaged the lives of black people then it makes more sense.

There are black women ditching "official" feminist movements because they can't get what Stanton apparently took for granted:

Speaking on behalf of black women, she stated that not allowing them to vote condemned African American freedwomen "to a triple bondage that man never knows," that of slavery, gender, and race.

That's why I ask.

ISTG. I had six hours to do stuff today including write a cover letter, and have used up five of them doing nothing! This is why I'm no good at staycation -- I am way too good at procrastinating.

My tasks today are to unpack suitcases (ugh), go through mail (not ugh, but boring), and work on putting together a scrapbook of my France trip (fun!) I think I'll do the mail first, just to get it out of the way and have something done. I've made a rule that I can't start working on scrapbook stuff until all my suitcases are unpacked.