Doesn't winter seem more like archiving season?

Willow ,'Lessons'


Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


JZ - Nov 20, 2013 8:20:27 pm PST #12581 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Is there anyone anywhere (except possibly the asshat director(s) ND worked with who had a deeply questionable idea of what funny is) for whom tech is anything but torture? The actors definitely aren't having any fun. It's all move here; stand there; be essentially replaceable at any time with a dressmaker's dummy but don't you dare leave; as long as you're up there just say that line -- and now say it again, over and over, until you want to stab the person who wrote it with an icepick; we don't need you yet but you can't leave because your next scene is in two pages (and in tech two pages is exactly like two minutes on a football clock, which may be two actual minutes or may be more like ninety, or possibly tomorrow).

I blame ND's director(s). Or possibly Tino.


NoiseDesign - Nov 20, 2013 8:26:23 pm PST #12582 of 30000
Our wings are not tired

On a good show I love tech, it's where I get to do really creative work and in the right situation it is a wonderfully collaborative time.


aurelia - Nov 20, 2013 8:40:46 pm PST #12583 of 30000
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Tech doesn't have to be that way. Difficulties happen, but it really should be the most collaborative part of the process. When that happens it is deeply satisfying for all involved. But if a show is *extremely* technical, or the schedule it too tight, or people come into it expecting torture, then it does end up being painful. It infuriates me when a director tells a cast (esp HS or college) that tech will be boring but they have to bear with it. I've blatantly contradicted multiple directors for doing that. That is just bad training.

Yes, some shows are torture, but designers wouldn't do this if that's all there was. We are almost always in tech. We're there to help tell the story because we enjoy it.


JZ - Nov 20, 2013 9:11:53 pm PST #12584 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

The directors I've worked with have pretty much all treated the cast like furniture during tech, there to stand and sit and walk on command and remain mostly silent and very remote from any of the collaborative work that happened. I honestly had no idea before you posted that that there was any alternative and that these were opportunities lost (as crew, it's always been totally fascinating and magical, but severely not so as onstage personnel).


aurelia - Nov 20, 2013 9:34:20 pm PST #12585 of 30000
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

In the best situations I've had give and take with the actors in addition to the director and other designers. I help them, they help me, they have a sense of what I'm working on in the moment. It's lovely. I'm sorry your experience has been otherwise.


hippocampus - Nov 20, 2013 10:55:37 pm PST #12586 of 30000
not your mom's socks.

Happy birthday, Sparky!


Typo Boy - Nov 20, 2013 11:06:59 pm PST #12587 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Buffista pharmacists. A bunch of medications were delivered by mail, left by UPS in place where I did not think to look for them and thus ended up exposed to freezing temperatures for at least four hours. I'll call my pharmacist in the morning, but to your knowledge, which of the following are made less effective or less stable and long lasting by freezing? (Spelling may not be perfect:

Metaformin for diabetes, Lozarthz (blood pressure meds), Simvastin, Flonase (naasal spray), mupricin (antibiotic oinment), Finasteride (for prostate)


Typo Boy - Nov 20, 2013 11:07:46 pm PST #12588 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

UPS normally leave on the porch, but in this case left in the thingie used to hold delivered newspaper - which is not where I would normally think to look for a UPS package.


Theodosia - Nov 21, 2013 2:48:14 am PST #12589 of 30000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Remember that Very Onerous Task that I alluded to earlier this week? My appointment to start resolving it is at 9 AM. Really, I know it's the sort of problem that can be resolved with money (possibly, if things don't go my way) but I'm rather apprehensive all the same.


Jesse - Nov 21, 2013 2:51:48 am PST #12590 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

You can do it, Theo! Here's to the quickest resolution for the smallest amount of money.