Fred: So you don't worry that it's possible for someone to send out a biological or electronic trigger that effectively overrides your own sense of ideals and values and replaces them with an alternative coercive agenda that reduces you to a mindless meat puppet? Shopkeeper: Wow. People used to think that I was paranoid.

'Time Bomb'


Spike's Bitches 48: I Say, We Go Out There, and Kick a Little Demon Ass.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


WindSparrow - Aug 28, 2013 12:53:44 pm PDT #3940 of 30002
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Also, apparently the military way of doing some trades, and the real-world way don't always align well. I'm trying to remember the context where I heard this - electronics, maybe? Anyway, someone I knew who found that getting a job after he got out was not nearly the gold-plated guarantee he was told - because though he had X years of experience, he didn't have X years of relevant experience.

Heh, the old man got into computers in the Army in the late '50s, and was in Rand Sperry Univac's school in Ilion, NY in 1960 when he met my mom. So yeah, there was a certain amount of retraining to be done. Then again, back then they may all have been making it up as they went along.


Trudy Booth - Aug 28, 2013 1:01:19 pm PDT #3941 of 30002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

My extensive knowledge of military experience not translating to civilian experience consists of medics on Jon Stewart saying they're not certified as EMTs of any level and have to start from scratch to certify.


EpicTangent - Aug 28, 2013 1:03:46 pm PDT #3942 of 30002
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

That's...troubling.


SuziQ - Aug 28, 2013 1:45:49 pm PDT #3943 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Well, big strike one, he was supposed to be here 13 minutes ago. CJ has looked outside to see if he was lost and has called his number, only to get VM.

I have pen and paper for notes.

I don't think the Army is an automatic no way thing for CJ. It is more of a why now? He is just a junior. Yes, junior year is the year to explore post graduation options, so in that sense I get it. But beyond that, chill out.

Fifteen minutes late. Not impressed.


SuziQ - Aug 28, 2013 1:51:45 pm PDT #3944 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

And a big point to CJ. He teaches at the dojo on Wednesdays and had told them he would be late so he could be here to talk with the recruiter. Since he couldn't get ahold of the guy, CJ put on his gi and left.

If dude shows up now, I'll talk to him for a couple and send him on his way. Twenty one minutes late.


Trudy Booth - Aug 28, 2013 1:55:51 pm PDT #3945 of 30002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

It shouldn't be that difficult to develop an expedited certification -- test out on the things they've covered, a short course on the things they have not. It's a matter of political will.

So, you know, good luck with that.

We've got VA benefit databases that don't communicate -- too bad we don't have a bunch of unemployed people lying around who could do data entry. It seems like "support the troops" only lasts as long as they're being shot at.

I've seen time in the military do people a lot of good, but until we're treating vets better I'd be hesitant to go that route.

The Merchant Marine, on the other hand... lots of order, better money, an actual union, far less killing and dying.


Laura - Aug 28, 2013 2:13:28 pm PDT #3946 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

I've known a couple of doctors who got their degrees on the job. They had to commit to...I think, but don't quote me on this...6 years post grad service. But, hey, free medical school does not grow on trees!

This is Bobby's master plan. He has grown up around doctors because of my business. He plans to get his Bachelor's degree, then enlist in the Air Force (family tradition both sides) and have them pay for medical school. His favorite friend doctor did it this way in the Army.

I don't know if he will stay on this path at this early stage, but I love that he has an actual plan.


erikaj - Aug 28, 2013 2:14:11 pm PDT #3947 of 30002
Always Anti-fascist!

Yeah, it'd be better if they don't have time to contemplate sniper skills or bayonetting people. I would do that happily, Trudy. I could make some money, use my education, and clear up some messes for some veterans.


SuziQ - Aug 28, 2013 2:27:10 pm PDT #3948 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I don't know if he will stay on this path at this early stage, but I love that he has an actual plan.

I think this is part of where my concern comes from. Fireman has always been his long term goal. Even with the search and rescue work he does, that hasn't changed. Army just feels out of the blue to me.

Fifty six minutes late. Wondering if he will show at 5:30 instead of 4:30. I put a bra on, darn it.


Amy - Aug 28, 2013 2:42:25 pm PDT #3949 of 30002
Because books.

That's not cool, with no phone call to explain. I wouldn't answer the door if he does knock now, Suzi.