Jayne, your mouth is talking. You might wanna look to that.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Spike's Bitches 48: I Say, We Go Out There, and Kick a Little Demon Ass.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Nora Deirdre - Nov 20, 2015 5:01:06 am PST #22394 of 30002
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

He may even be maturing! He passed on an opportunity to go to Orlando to a Dead concert with friends because "work was too busy right now" and decided it was better to plan to go to another one NYE in CA. His dad was so impressed he suggested we all go, and he was thrilled at the notion of going with his parents.

Awesome! Fingers crossed this is a continued path for him.

Welcome Alexandra!


meara - Nov 20, 2015 6:47:58 am PST #22395 of 30002

Yay #1 son! Here's hoping it keeps looking up.

And yes, even though 95% of the people on my flist are on the same page as me, the 5% hurts. And sometimes FB shows me friends commenting on other folks stuff, so can't avoid the grr.


Maria - Nov 20, 2015 8:25:28 am PST #22396 of 30002
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Yay for the number 1 son, Laura! I too hope this is a continued path for him.

My Facebook friends list is about 50-50. It drives me crazy, and I try to be apolitical, because a lot of the crazies are customers of our restaurant. It is not my place to drive away business, even if they are wronger than a wrong thing. I wish I didn't have to worry about that, because it feels like I'm compromising my principles.


SuziQ - Nov 20, 2015 9:39:12 am PST #22397 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I have unfollowed and unfriended an assortment of folks who I had been keeping to try to get a more balanced political view, but the pure hatred over the last couple of months boiled over after Paris and I just couldn't handle it anymore (run on sentence anyone).


Laura - Nov 20, 2015 9:55:43 am PST #22398 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

I tried for a while blocking the sources that people post links to and that sort of thing, but too much effort. I can battle the family and close friends face to face when they are being hateful, but I don't have the energy to disprove and argue with the amount of horrible stuff I am seeing posted. Like the cousin that wants to lock them all up in camps in the desert since they are used to the desert. I just can't. So yes, I am taking the cowards way out and fleeing. But F2F, it is ON!


Hil R. - Nov 20, 2015 1:37:23 pm PST #22399 of 30002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

My Facebook friends have been pretty squarely in support of the refugees, but most of my more conservative Facebook friends are family, and "You don't turn your back on refugees" is pretty deeply embedded in all of us.


Hil R. - Nov 20, 2015 1:47:31 pm PST #22400 of 30002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I've been pretty impressed with US Jewish organizations. Even the ones who are usually very right-wing on security issues -- the ones who advocate war against Iran, and protecting Israel at all costs -- have almost all issued statements in support of letting Syrian refugees in. The only exception that I was able to find was Zionist Organization of America, and they're kind of nuts to begin with -- the people that I think are right-wing nutjobs think that ZOA are right-wing nutjobs.

edit: I mean, ZOA supports Jonathan Pollard, who is a convicted spy. Most other Jewish organizations seem to regard him as an embarrassment and are trying to ignore his release as much as possible, while a few are giving half-hearted things about how we all know that what he did was wrong, but the sentence he got was disproportionate. ZOA is celebrating him as a hero.


Shir - Nov 20, 2015 11:37:04 pm PST #22401 of 30002
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

I've been pretty impressed with US Jewish organizations

How I really, really wish I could say the same for my own country. The most optimistic thing I can say about the current climate in my country is that is disheartening and upsetting.

I really wish my country wasn't like this. I volunteer with Eritrean refugees. 3/4 of my grandparents are refugees (the fourth moved to Palestine from Germany in 1934). I learned about horrors. So I cannot understand people who can debate about the circumstances in which we can send and ignore people being sent to their deaths. As if being a refugee is a "lifestyle" choice.


Burrell - Nov 21, 2015 6:44:20 am PST #22402 of 30002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Ugh Shir!

because it feels like I'm compromising my principles.

I get that, but I also think there's such a thing as modeling and ways of engaging that aren't confrontational. I admit FB is not my zone for engaging pretty much at all, I tend to leave that to the classroom, but teaching is all about letting students voice their opinions and directing them to resources where they might find the kinds of facts and information that might change their opinions. And then forcing them to analyze all of it. Only really die-hard wrongheadedness usually survives that, but trust me, it can and does. But most of the time, they come away from a paper with a much more developed understanding of things.


Burrell - Nov 21, 2015 6:46:47 am PST #22403 of 30002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Oh, also wanted to say yay for #1 son! You are an awesome mom Laura. You've show such loving support and let him find his way on his own.