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Spike's Bitches 48: I Say, We Go Out There, and Kick a Little Demon Ass.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Zenkitty - Mar 05, 2015 7:29:38 pm PST #17643 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I can say I'm not crazy about "by-products"

Yeah, true. As far as I know, that's everything but the muscle meat, like offal and cartilage, and I figure, cats would eat that in the wild. They eat the whole animal. So, while I don't know exactly what constitutes by-products*, I still think stuff that came from an animal is better for them than corn, gluten, or soy. And, man, my cats are eating it like they haven't seen food before.

*I suspect it means, "We can't sell this, so we're putting it in pet food."


WindSparrow - Mar 05, 2015 9:29:51 pm PST #17644 of 30002
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

This page (click on the link that says "by-products" to scroll to that section) explains why I don't love them but why I also don't preach too hard against them. I have no problem with feeding my cats ground up noses and toes, but at least pluck the feathers off and make sure collars and tags are taken off first. And, well, sometimes "unfit for human consumption" equals "ick, no modern human will eat that" but sometimes it means "diseased, euthanized, and how sure are we that the chemicals from the euthanasia drugs burn off in the cooking process?" Spoiler font because of unnecessary grossness.


sj - Mar 06, 2015 5:14:06 am PST #17645 of 30002
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I honestly don't recall pregnancy hormones making me any less stable than ordinary, and H concurs. Of course one has to factor in my base level of "stable". That said, Budweiser commercials make me tear up.

I don't actually think I am either, Beverly, but it is a convenient excuse at the moment for when I have a very bad day for no good reason. I think I am actually far better than when I was on the fertility drugs.


Zenkitty - Mar 06, 2015 6:46:34 am PST #17646 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

This page (click on the link that says "by-products" to scroll to that section) explains why I don't love them but why I also don't preach too hard against them

If it's a choice between something I know is not good for them and something that might or might not be -- well, the cats say it's good eating. At least, I don't know of any recalls on Sheba, and there are meat by-products in the Friskies Medleys I usually feed them, too.


Trudy Booth - Mar 06, 2015 7:01:34 am PST #17647 of 30002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Well I had a fun little morning on Metro North. Nobody got hurt and that's really all that matters, of course.

First we stopped and they told us there was an out of service train ahead of us that had to be moved. Then WE lost power and were an out of service train that had to be moved... and that another train would be coming along shortly to push us to Harlem.

It didn't work! Naturally. They came through and released all the breaks by hand. The car was getting colder. We're underground so its pretty dark when the rest of our power goes. People were getting antsy... aaaaaand the woman in the seat next to me said she'd been in the crash at Valhalla.

It took forever and a day (ok, about 2 hours) to get us out of there. She held up like a champ. On the train that took us from Harlem I heard other people saying they'd been on the train that wrecked. They always said what car, it was interesting. "I was in the second car..."

So its been A Day and I just got to work! Good times... good times...


WindSparrow - Mar 06, 2015 7:31:54 am PST #17648 of 30002
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

[link] I didn't actually put the link in that post. Let's chalk that up to exhaustion. Yeah, the by-products are a wayyyyyyyy better choice than corn starch.


WindSparrow - Mar 06, 2015 7:36:36 am PST #17649 of 30002
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Trudy, I'm glad everyone is ok, and especially glad that that crash survivors weren't too miserable from fear.


SailAweigh - Mar 06, 2015 7:49:57 am PST #17650 of 30002
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

That sounds like it could have been a total meltdown point for a lot of those folks. Good thing everyone kept their cool. ::ba-dum-bum::


sj - Mar 06, 2015 9:15:53 am PST #17651 of 30002
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Trudy, how awful. I'm glad everyone is okay.

The uti is being stubborn. I have to go on another antibiotic to clear it up and then a third as a maintenance antibiotic for the remainder of my pregnancy. I'm trying not to focus on the fact that utis can lead to miscarriage, but it's hard not to.


Zenkitty - Mar 06, 2015 9:33:14 am PST #17652 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Hugs to everyone, spring is coming, hang on!

Andi, thanks for that list, there are some more foods I haven't tried them on yet! We have yet to find the "perfect" food - one that makes me totally happy and all three cats enjoy it. I have tried them on Soulistic and Tiki; they liked them but didn't eat it all. I don't like wasting food. I wish I had a pig.