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'Shindig'


Spike's Bitches 48: I Say, We Go Out There, and Kick a Little Demon Ass.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Connie Neil - Oct 09, 2014 10:57:00 am PDT #13637 of 30002
brillig

No stairs to your floor? What about exiting in the case of a fire?


Toddson - Oct 09, 2014 11:02:25 am PDT #13638 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

JZ, I got moved to an open office and it can get distractingly noisy. They did make a rule that all cell phones have to be on mute/vibrate and anyone listening to music has to use earbuds/earphones ... but some people don't. And if anyone gets loud it can be bad. On the other hand, you can get used to it, although we have "huddle rooms" where you can retreat for a bit of quiet.

And you know, from my experience in a previous open office, it may well turn out that the doctors will dig in their heels and demand construction to give them enclosed offices.


JZ - Oct 09, 2014 11:08:53 am PDT #13639 of 30002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

It's all constructed, and there's no money left (apparently someone on the lower floors blew through the floor design budget, so 4-8 have a choice of either open office, doctors pay for their own construction, or we hold a hell of a lot of bake sales).

There are emergency exit stairs, but they're all alarmed - where we are now some are alarmed, a few aren't, and most have key card access to disable any alarms, but the new place will be all alarmed, all the time, no key cards.


SuziQ - Oct 09, 2014 11:19:57 am PDT #13640 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Our open office plan, even with the "quite rooms" is a big part of why I continue to work from home. I am in the Salt Lake City office more than I am ever in the Denver office. In SLC, I take over one of the larger "quite rooms" and have people in and out for meetings, but in between - it is all mine and QUIET.

I hope you find a workable way to deal JZ. When I'm in the Denver office, my headphones are usually enough to keep me sane. And if I didn't have the option of working at home, I'm sure I would find some way to adapt.


Burrell - Oct 09, 2014 11:40:05 am PDT #13641 of 30002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Ugh JZ. What about sound-cancelling earphones?


JZ - Oct 09, 2014 11:50:28 am PDT #13642 of 30002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I could do those, definitely. But part of the issue is that I'm really a very low-level office drone for whom phone duty is part of the job. I really can't ask to work from home, and all of this is going to be icky and depressing but not enough so to raise it to legally-entitled-to-accommodation status. It's just going to make me hate work again.

Also, I'm already the office weirdo of our tiny division, and I'm kind of anxious that sound-cancelling earphones will clearly mark me as the office weirdo of the entire open-plan floor (plus, bad for the phone work).

To be fair, hating the work environment is a whole lot better than hating and fearing the rage-explosive co-worker who has more power than I do; nothing can ever, ever be as bad as that was.


Connie Neil - Oct 09, 2014 11:51:21 am PDT #13643 of 30002
brillig

Are there any rooms that get used for scolding people in private? Are all the supervisors and managers out in the open as well?


meara - Oct 09, 2014 11:58:34 am PDT #13644 of 30002

Having worked with a lot of doctors, I find the fact that they didn't give them offices RIDICULOUS! Also, suspect they will throw shitfits soon enough.


brenda m - Oct 09, 2014 12:05:24 pm PDT #13645 of 30002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

My hunch is if you can stick it out for a few months others will handle the complaining.

I would also see if you can find out how desk assignments are made and see if you can get in a lower traffic area.


JZ - Oct 09, 2014 12:21:50 pm PDT #13646 of 30002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Oh, shitfits aplenty have been thrown, for almost a year now, to no effect whatsoever. Except our division chief, who has a condo one block away from the new facility; he fully plans to spend all his non-OR and non-committee-meeting time working from home.

There's one faculty member whom I work for part-time, just an hour or so a day, who is famous for being a difficult bitch (not because she is, but because she has zero tolerance for stupidity and bullshit, which is not a valued quality in a female junior faculty member) but with whom I get on just fine; I know she's going to angle for someplace as (comparatively) isolated as possible, so if I can't change jobs I should at least try to get myself moved near her. Then we can bitch together until we're so bitchy that everyone else leaves us alone.

Seriously, it's a bad, bad, bad office plan. I mean, good for gregarious extroverts, but a perfect storm of badness for attention-shunning introverts. Our floor is almost totally open aside from some closet space in the middle for office supplies and IT wiring; even the "focus rooms" have glass walls, and the entire outside of the building is floor-to-ceiling windows. With whooshing wind machines.