Cordelia: I get it now. You're all spies. Probably all Russian. And you've brainwashed me, and want me to believe we're friends so I'll spill the beans about some nano-technology thingy that you want. Gunn: So I look Russian to you? Cordelia: Black Russian. Angel: That's a drink.

'Hell Bound'


Spike's Bitches 48: I Say, We Go Out There, and Kick a Little Demon Ass.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


omnis_audis - Aug 11, 2014 8:19:53 pm PDT #12770 of 30002
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

Can you tell us how it was decided?

Ha. Long cross post. Yup.

OK, that's the bulk of the case. I'm sure I missed some details. Thankfully I kept my notes, and the vote tallies that I recorded.

On the whole, it was a good experience. I understand why everyone wants to ditch jury duty. Especially if work doesn't pay for it, or dings you vacation or sick days or something. But I found it very interesting. Of course, I do watch a lot of procedural tv shows, and grew up reading murder mystery novels. So, YRMV.


Zenkitty - Aug 11, 2014 8:30:46 pm PDT #12771 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Fascinating. Sounds like you were crucial in getting a decision out of that jury. Good job, you!


billytea - Aug 11, 2014 8:36:32 pm PDT #12772 of 30002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

We kinda laughed that a plunger is a deadly weapon

What, were there no Doctor Who fans in the room?


omnis_audis - Aug 11, 2014 8:51:31 pm PDT #12773 of 30002
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

What, were there no Doctor Who fans in the room?
Wait? There was a Doctor Who plunger episode?


omnis_audis - Aug 11, 2014 8:51:59 pm PDT #12774 of 30002
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

unless you mean the Daleks?


billytea - Aug 11, 2014 10:01:47 pm PDT #12775 of 30002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

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JZ - Aug 11, 2014 10:18:37 pm PDT #12776 of 30002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Totally fascinating, omnis. I did jury duty last year and found it hard, and weighty, and emotionally intense, especially the deliberations (everyone at once bone-naked truthful and totally anonymous and having to trust both your own and everyone else's thought process), and you describe all of that so vividly.

It's eerie, and moving, how deeply seriously everyone takes it all once it starts; we all roll our eyes at the the prospect of getting stuck with jury duty but the reality - the gravity of your discussion and your choices being the deciding factors in the course of a total stranger's life - is slightly terrifying.


Laura - Aug 12, 2014 2:50:47 am PDT #12777 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

Fascinating, and upsetting. Jury duty really is an important responsibility. And tough.

Also, as an aside as M, I am glad I never allowed the boys to get physical with each other in fights. The boys will be boys thing is complete crap to me, and I heard it way too often. No, violence is never acceptable. A great number of 'friends' have suggested that what boys need is to be pummeled by dad on occasion too. Um NO, not ever under any circumstances. Way too many people seem to think that violence is somehow normal behavior, and I just don't get or accept that.

Often sitting alone in the extreme pacifist corner. And somehow my bestie is a HUGE boxing fan. I keep trying to explain to her that my issue is that they hit each other. We go out for drinks at the sports bar on Friday night and sit with her facing the boxing screen and me facing baseball or something. We accept that we will never understand each other. But we won't fight about it!!!


Zenkitty - Aug 12, 2014 6:05:03 am PDT #12778 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Way too many people seem to think that violence is somehow normal behavior, and I just don't get or accept that.

For way too many people, violence IS normal behavior. Someone grows up with it, it's normal, and they see people who avoid it as being weak. I know a bunch of people like that, including most of my family. One of the many reasons I left and never went back. I'm over here in the pacifist corner with you, Laura.


beth b - Aug 12, 2014 6:11:46 am PDT #12779 of 30002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Nice to know Laura. my sisters and I were not allowed to hit each other Hitting was one of the worst crimes in my family ( lying might have been worse) No matter what the provocation, physical violence was not tolerated. It got the most severe punishments. I know some kids that were encouraged to fight it out.