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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
I'm sure it was months ago that someone decided that campaign expenses needed to stop as of the election, which meant November 6, so auto-cancelled the cards as of 11/6. But of course people were leaving the event after midnight. I don't know, it just seems like the kind of thing that made sense at the time.
Yeah, but it's not like it was everyone's first time running a campaign. They had to know the expenses don't just stop as soon as the polls close.
True fact.
Huh. I've never read this before:
In 1989, most Americans had never even heard of gay marriage, and certainly couldn’t conceive that it would one day be legalized by popular vote. That year, Andrew Sullivan wrote a landmark essay for the New Republic, “Here Comes the Groom: A (Conservative) Case for Gay Marriage.” Sullivan’s essay is one of the most important magazine articles of recent decades. His argument, which he went on to elaborate in his books Virtually Normal and Same-Sex Marriage and in later essays, is that marriage for gays would “foster social cohesion, emotional security, and economic prudence.” Sullivan’s conservative case would eventually become the intellectual and moral foundation of the campaigns to legalize gay marriage. Sullivan gave Slate permission to reprint his New Republic essay in full.
The idea that gay marriage is consistant with conservative values was kind of an "out there" idea in 1989, right?
The idea that gay marriage is consistant with conservative values was kind of an "out there" idea in 1989, right?
It pretty much still is. The only high-profile conservatives I know of who favor it (and are willing to admit to that in public) are Andrew Sullivan and Ted Olson.
debra saunders - wrote a progay marriage column from the conservative side ( generally married couples invest in their property /schools/community more that couples that live together - so it is good for property values )
It pretty much still is. The only high-profile conservatives I know of who favor it (and are willing to admit to that in public) are Andrew Sullivan and Ted Olson.
In the US, anyway. But it's a common idea in the UK.
debra saunders - wrote a progay marriage column from the conservative side
I believe that. Although I bet that to the GOP, she's a RINO, given that she lives in the depraved Bay Area and writes for the Chron.
Came across this blog post this morning: [link] It's a GOP volunteer who was supposed to be on the GOTV team, talking about what a debacle election day was. And it shows that the reluctance to engage with reality extended to their own efforts, as well. Frankly, we're damned lucky Team Romney was as incompetent as they were: a solid GOTV effort might have made a difference in some key states.
I'm hungry. I need a pancake delivery service.
Oh dang, Dana. That sound like a marvelous idea. I'd like some pumpkin pancakes, please. I have my own maple syrup...