Kaylee: You're nice, too. Mal: No, I'm not. I'm a mean old man.

'Serenity'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Aims - Dec 14, 2012 9:36:54 am PST #4480 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

It's so ... strange. When I first heard about it, there were only 2 dead. I got in the shower, thinking about Columbine and thinking that thank God this wasn't as bad. Then I got out of the shower and I had a text from the girl I finished doing my pre-student teaching with saying to turn on CNN and I did and ... my God.


CaBil - Dec 14, 2012 9:43:39 am PST #4481 of 30001
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

An entire class?

Oh god, that town is going to be devastated. The survivors are going to go to school in that town are always going to be reminded, because there is always going to be a grade that is too small...


le nubian - Dec 14, 2012 9:43:54 am PST #4482 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I am watching MSNBC right now. they are reporting the gunman started at the principal's office and then went to his mother's classroom and killed his mother and targeted the children in the classroom.

It is not clear he killed all the kids in the classroom, but that's who seemed to get the worst of it.


DavidS - Dec 14, 2012 9:46:24 am PST #4483 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It's so strange, you can see his FB page.

There are his college buddies and video of them fucking around.

And if you're a reporter you can just go down his long friends list and start fishing for an interview.

He was a fan of local Quinnipiac Community Theater and Guns and Roses and playing Mass Effect.


flea - Dec 14, 2012 9:52:16 am PST #4484 of 30001
information libertarian

I am actively dreading school pickup today because of the other parents who are going to be freaking out and wanting to talk about it. I don;t want to talk about it with them! I want to talk about it with you guys!

Also, Casper at least is old enough that even if we skip NPR tonight she will hear about it from friends. Which means I have to talk to her about it. Ugh. She is at that age where she is starting to realize there are horrible things in the world, and it kills me. I remember that realization myself, and frankly I am not over it yet.


flea - Dec 14, 2012 9:52:53 am PST #4485 of 30001
information libertarian

David, just FYI, I have seen reports that there is a Facebook page of a different guy with the same name that some people are taking for the shooter's.


Connie Neil - Dec 14, 2012 9:53:15 am PST #4486 of 30001
brillig

I headed to the Salt Lake Tribune and knowingly dived into the comments on the story. The Trib is the local "liberal" paper, and I use it for a gauge of what passes for reasonable thought around here. there are the usual "If the teachers were armed!" and such comments, but a lot of gun owners are saying "Maybe it is too easy for people to get guns" and "Why is this worse in America when everyone in Switzerland has guns too?"

One person said "It's not gun control we need, it's mental health control", which is a glib way of saying what I'm thinking. Not enough people get the help they need, and too many people refuse to admit they need help. Then they get angry at the world, then they reach for their gun.

Thankfully, most people are jumping down the throats of those advocating for armed citizens who can return fire in cases like this. More people are saying "Yeah, right, untrained people who are scared to death are going to start throwing more bullets around, that's going to improve the situation."

That said, I'm not going just yet over to the comments on the conservative papers. Though there may be some very shaken people over there, as well.


Burrell - Dec 14, 2012 9:54:59 am PST #4487 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Also, Casper at least is old enough that even if we skip NPR tonight she will hear about it from friends. Which means I have to talk to her about it. Ugh.

I'm dreading that one too.


msbelle - Dec 14, 2012 9:55:33 am PST #4488 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

mac is going to be freaked the fuck out. and last night was the first night in months that he went to bed without me in the room. of course, tonight I am just as likely to want to snuggle him, so no real problem.


Trudy Booth - Dec 14, 2012 9:56:21 am PST #4489 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I don;t want to talk about it with them! I want to talk about it with you guys!

Hopefully "let's not talk about this in front of the kids" will keep them at bay.