What you did to me was unbelievable, Connor. But then I got stuck in a hell dimension by my girlfriend one time for a hundred years, so three months under the ocean actually gave me perspective. Kind of a M.C. Escher perspective, but I did get time to think.

Angel ,'Conviction (1)'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Dec 06, 2012 7:06:21 am PST #3369 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Disco-era Nightwing.

Man, he *would* be swanky.


Jessica - Dec 06, 2012 7:06:37 am PST #3370 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Oooh, apparently there may be "talent" at our holiday party tonight. But we're not supposed to bother them or ask for pictures so I assume it will just be a lot of people very casually just happening to walk up to the bar at the same time as Matt Smith and pretending it's a coincidence.


msbelle - Dec 06, 2012 7:14:28 am PST #3371 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

chocolates are resolved and I have handed off the poster to someone with plotter expertise.

Now to make the labels and then run buy gift cards for big boss.


Tom Scola - Dec 06, 2012 7:32:30 am PST #3372 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Doctor Strange.


§ ita § - Dec 06, 2012 7:37:10 am PST #3373 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Those lions are supposed to be a genetically distinct population which is not the same thing as a new species. The original articles I read stuck to population and didn't say species (well, until IO9 and its ilk got their hands on the story), and now the articles say both, but in no way indicate why or how this is a new species. Not being pantherus leo is a huge deal--being another subspecies of pantherus leo (there are like 5, 10?) is still big, but--if you're not the same species of lion, are you still a lion?

Billytea, where are you? We need your adjudication.


Rick - Dec 06, 2012 7:47:22 am PST #3374 of 30001

There is not complete agreement in biology about how best to define a species. The definition that people use is driven by the methods that they use. A field biologist might focus on breeding potential; an anatomist on morphology; a quantitative genetic researcher on evidence of genetic separation.

Within that mess, these lions can be considered a new species or just a sub-species.


§ ita § - Dec 06, 2012 8:00:22 am PST #3375 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Are all the lions now one species?


tommyrot - Dec 06, 2012 8:06:48 am PST #3376 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Remember that company that wants to set up a colony on Mars? This has nothing to do with that.

Golden Spike Company announces plan for commercial lunar space expeditions

An announcement of note this morning about The Golden Spike Company, a new private space travel venture, backed by private investors. Their tag line? "Extend Your Reach." Snip from today's press release:

On the eve of the 40th anniversary of the launch of Apollo 17, the last human exploration of the Moon, Former Apollo Flight Director and NASA Johnson Space Center Director, Gerry Griffin, and planetary scientist and former NASA science chief, Dr. Alan Stern, today unveiled “The Golden Spike Company” – the first company planning to offer routine exploration expeditions to the surface of the Moon. At the National Press Club announcement this afternoon, Dr. Stern, Golden Spike’s President and CEO, and Mr. Griffin, chairman of Golden Spike’s board of directors, introduced other members of Golden Spike’s leadership team and detailed the company’s intentions to make complete lunar surface expeditions available by the end of the decade.

...

The company says it plans to "maximize use of existing rockets" and market the resulting system to "nations, individuals, and corporations with lunar exploration objectives and ambitions," promising "prices that are a fraction of any lunar program ever conceived until now." A tall order, to be certain. Those I've spoken to in the space biz are skeptical, but of the mind that the more entrepreneurial efforts and private sector innovation we see in the Space space, the better.

Buffista F2F in 2020: Tycho crater, Moon?

eta: This from the article should be included:

The company is registered as a business in Colorado, where medical marijuana was just made legal. COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT.


Rick - Dec 06, 2012 8:08:17 am PST #3377 of 30001

All African lions? Depends on where the person you are talking to went to graduate school and when.

All lions? I don't think you will find anyone trying to make a case for that.


zuisa - Dec 06, 2012 8:32:46 am PST #3378 of 30001
call me jacki; zuisa is an internet nick from ancient times =)

I assume it will just be a lot of people very casually just happening to walk up to the bar at the same time as Matt Smith and pretending it's a coincidence.

If Matt Smith was at my holiday party, I would be doing a very lot of this. Or, really, anyone from any show I watch.

Suzi, that was nice of you! People are often very taken aback when people do things like that for them, but I'm sure beneath his bewilderment he appreciated it.