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Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Juliebird - Jul 17, 2013 2:33:22 pm PDT #29495 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

From my own field: you needn't have explicitly studied hort to get a job in hort, but some plant-based studies is a bonus, be it botany or environmental studies or even something agriculture. And then life experience counts for everything once you start moving up. Writing skills and people skills (especially when it comes to public speaking and grant writing) are key and can sometimes trump the fact that you were an accountant or lawyer prior to becoming a professional gardener.

Doesn't, ahem, mean that you end up good at your job in a realistic sense, but hired to your level of incompetence, no doubt.

My only life-advice to interns is "don't work for non-profits unless you have a sugar-daddy/momma and you really love it". Because while the latter is nice, the former, as I'm discovering, is key to whether you really should play ball there. Cuz I sure as f*** don't belong here. And my loyalty will never pay off, it'll just be squeezed more for my time and loyalty, which will lead to horrible things, like things I won't mention here.


Jesse - Jul 17, 2013 2:46:38 pm PDT #29496 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

That really depends on the nonprofit, though. And probably the actual field. Not too many sugar daddies around the youth-service organizations I've worked for.


Steph L. - Jul 17, 2013 2:47:36 pm PDT #29497 of 30001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

But there are also ways to be educated that won't leave you in crippling debt.

I was talking with a friend after work; he asked me if I really wanted to stay in publishing, or look for something else. And I mentioned how big the project management aspect of my job really is, and he said that it's fairly easy to get certified as a project manager, and there's always a big need for them at larger companies. Additionally, once I'm officially unemployed, I might qualify for free or subsidized training/education in certain areas.

My roommate who was the first in her immediate family to go to college switched from engineering to business -- there was no way she wasn't going to get a practical degree.

See, as a journalism major, an engineering degree seems to me to be one of the most practical degrees you can possibly get.


Jesse - Jul 17, 2013 2:58:07 pm PDT #29498 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh yeah, the transition there was that she HATED engineering and had to get out. She could not transfer into liberal arts.


Steph L. - Jul 17, 2013 2:59:01 pm PDT #29499 of 30001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Ah. Got it! (Seriously, I was all "Engineering isn't practical???")


Jesse - Jul 17, 2013 3:02:06 pm PDT #29500 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I left out the whole middle of the story!


Sue - Jul 17, 2013 3:06:29 pm PDT #29501 of 30001
hip deep in pie

My friend's husband got his engineering degree, worked as a structural engineer for maybe a year before chucking it and working in film. (He was making films all along.) I'm pretty sure he only finished the degree for his parents.

In other news, 22 hunks of PBS. [link]

(Attn to Jesse on their #1.)


flea - Jul 17, 2013 3:15:29 pm PDT #29502 of 30001
information libertarian

Any hunk list that places Jason Isaacs as low as 14 is just wrong (or at least has never seen Peter Pan.)


Jesse - Jul 17, 2013 3:16:20 pm PDT #29503 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I have a lot of issues with that list! But seriously:

Feel with 100% certainty that if Sergeant Hathaway were real, I would be married to him.


Sue - Jul 17, 2013 3:19:28 pm PDT #29504 of 30001
hip deep in pie

Any hunk list that places Jason Isaacs as low as 14 is just wrong (or at least has never seen Peter Pan.)

Well they never even mentioned his frequent shirtlessness in Case Histories (which was the only thing that kept it from being completely grim), so she has some issues with priorities.