The people I hung out with in the Comm department were much more educational/entertaining/enlightening than the people I knew when I was doing a Library Science major, which would have had a bigger ROI.

Is that a factor of degree or institution? Most of the people I hung out with weren't doing my major, and I would have hung out with them as long as my major gave me enough free time.

Be careful out there.

Sounds like fair reason to unlink from people.

Yeah, I think it's about how many people spend huge amounts for a degree that will only really benefit a small percentage of them.

This is pretty much the situation with law school right now, actually.

We have a sort of schizophrenic perspective on education that articles like that don't help. Do we want people to study what they are passionate about or is college meant to be a jobs training program? Is college an important part of citizenship from a learning the world perspective or is it merely an investment in the work force? And if it is both, then to what extent?

Do we want people to study what they are passionate about or is college meant to be a jobs training program?

The article does not say "don't study art". It does say "don't study art at an expensive university." It suggests meatspace places to study art, as well as other resources.

A guy just wandered by my desk, talked about my doodling, talked about his doodling and his therapist's recommendations regarding same, and...

I have no idea what his name is or why he wandered by my desk, especially since you can't see my face from the corridor. But I do know he has ADD. So, that.

I think in this economy it has to be both, because the cost of education is rising so much faster than average salary. I'd love to go back to school but unless a decent job is going to come out of it, there's no way I can afford it.

I will add, though, that I'm also lucky that I can take advantage of programs like Coursera, and I know enough about what I don't know to use the library to my advantage.

It is so fucking cold in the building I can't think.

OMG my hands ache so badly from the ridiculous AC. I keep hiding in the non-AC pockets between theaters for as long as I can get away with.

Suzy, re: your cousin (?) going home tomorrow

there is talk of her going home tomorrow (I think that is crazycakes).

Fairly typical, these days, actually. Hubby went in one morning with chest pains, they got him into the cardiac catheterization lab to see what was going on, didn't see anything that needed dealt with, we had lunch at our favorite restaurant on the way home. Stents without complications can easily be an overnight stay.

It's a brave new world. They used to do the catheterization through the femoral artery. The last time they went through his wrist. I remember my FIL in bed for days with a sandbag on his hip holding the incision in the femoral artery closed.

We have a sort of schizophrenic perspective on education that articles like that don't help. Do we want people to study what they are passionate about or is college meant to be a jobs training program? Is college an important part of citizenship from a learning the world perspective or is it merely an investment in the work force? And if it is both, then to what extent?

Kat,

since this is my area of expertise, I have a lot to say about this matter that will go on and on and bore you all to tears and you will block me from buffista-land.

Suffice it to say that four-year college degrees (liberal arts education) confer a lot of benefits, many of which are not job training. this has become less so as many degrees become more vocational in nature, but even the vocational degrees (e.g. engineering) aspire to something more than "make this widget"

Eater had a interesting thing about culinary school the other day that sort of speaks to art school in general, I think. One thing I thought was interesting was someone saying it depends on the kind of person you are -- if you can learn under fire with people yelling at you, maybe you should just work your way up in a restaurant, but that doesn't work for everyone.

Timelies all!

It's too warm to have a cat in my lap, but here I am.