Jayne: What're you gonna tell the others? Mal: About what? Jayne: About why I'm dead. Mal: Hadn't thought about it. Jayne: Make something up. Don't tell 'em what I did.

'Ariel'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Amy - Jul 14, 2013 5:48:49 am PDT #29134 of 30001
Because books.

I've actually seen lots of people talking about this, but that may be the bias of the news I watch and the people I follow on Twitter and Facebook.

I meant more publicly, in the media. I do see lots of *us* talking about it, but it kills me that there aren't people making more noise about what happened to this woman.

I think I need to bury myself in treachery and murder that is fiction for a time. It is so much less painful.

Very true.


sj - Jul 14, 2013 5:54:56 am PDT #29135 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I meant more publicly, in the media. I do see lots of *us* talking about it, but it kills me that there aren't people making more noise about what happened to this woman.

Melissa Harris Perry has brought up this case many times, and I believe Rachael Maddow has too.


Amy - Jul 14, 2013 5:59:26 am PDT #29136 of 30001
Because books.

Oh! Well, that's good, I guess?


§ ita § - Jul 14, 2013 6:57:44 am PDT #29137 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Melissa Harris Perry has brought up this case many times, and I believe Rachael Maddow has too.

Do they count, though? And I mean that pessimistically. Are they bringing the case to light to people who don't know about injustice like this, or are they telling people who already know how the system is broken?

Because I have to believe people need to know still.

Skimming tumblr told me more about Monteith than that awkward CNN article (like, hey, Canadian!). I can only imagine CNN was taken by surprise and didn't end up dipping into canned obituaries for their [link]


sj - Jul 14, 2013 7:02:18 am PDT #29138 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Do they count, though? And I mean that pessimistically. Are they bringing the case to light to people who don't know about injustice like this, or are they telling people who already know how the system is broken?

I can't really answer that. I watch those shows primarily because I want to hear about those cases and news stories I wouldn't otherwise know about, but I'm guessing if you don't want to know about such things, it is still pretty easy to remain ignorant.


Amy - Jul 14, 2013 7:09:19 am PDT #29139 of 30001
Because books.

I'm guessing if you don't want to know about such things, it is still pretty easy to remain ignorant.

There are also a lot of people who still get their news strictly from Diane Sawyer every weeknight at 6:30, too. So if she's not talking about it, they're not hearing it.

And I'm not trying to take away responsibility for following world events, but the current 24/7 media saturation makes *everything* available in some form, and it's a lot to take in. It's why I turn off sometimes, and just get my news from you guys.


§ ita § - Jul 14, 2013 7:13:39 am PDT #29140 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If you don't know there's important news that Diane Sawyer isn't telling you, how do you know to go to someone else to get it? That's what gets news to the water cooler and into hands beyond the people who are already dissatisfied with big media.


sj - Jul 14, 2013 7:32:24 am PDT #29141 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

If you don't know there's important news that Diane Sawyer isn't telling you, how do you know to go to someone else to get it? That's what gets news to the water cooler and into hands beyond the people who are already dissatisfied with big media.

Is Diane Sawyer's show just an hour? Because, if so, I would think it would be self evident that, even if she wanted to, she couldn't possibly cover all the important news of the day. The thing that really annoys me about the 24 hour news cycle is they often just cover the same 3 stories all day long on repeat, when there are so many important things left unreported or under reported.


Connie Neil - Jul 14, 2013 7:35:16 am PDT #29142 of 30001
brillig

The network evening news is half an hour--with ads, feel-good stuff, and whatever is considered the Big Story. Local news in the evening could be up to an hour and a half and sometimes picks up other stories. But I hate getting the news at the speed of delivery of a news reader, so I get my news off the net.


§ ita § - Jul 14, 2013 7:55:05 am PDT #29143 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I would think it would be self evident that, even if she wanted to, she couldn't possibly cover all the important news of the day

And yet, many people are going to satisfy themselves with no more than TV evening news (and quite possibly less). If you trust that it's an unbiased cross-sampling of the important issues, going out and getting more information is less pressing. But I doubt that much decision making is going into "I'm not hunting down more depressing shit". If it doesn't break, I'd be sorely surprised that the (NAAL assessed) average reading level of a 13 year old (7th or 8th grade) is chasing down more news in their scant enough free time.

(My literacy argument is just that if more people were chasing down alternative sources, wouldn't the reading level get higher--not scientific in the least--don't waste your time dismantling it, since it won't stand up to much)