Zoe: Next time we smuggle stock, let's make it something smaller. Wash: Yeah, we should start dealing in those black-market beagles.

'Safe'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


brenda m - Jul 08, 2013 6:04:06 am PDT #28460 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Not just twitterers. One of the BBC announcers went on about how she has to rely on talent because she's not hot. God, so many assholes.


aurelia - Jul 08, 2013 6:14:00 am PDT #28461 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Is tumblr content open to search engines? If so, some of those guys could be screwed by their own words someday. Public shaming should happen far more often.


§ ita § - Jul 08, 2013 6:15:14 am PDT #28462 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

This is the market that celebrated Kournikova for so long, and used monkey and other animal-related metaphors to describe the Williams sisters and let out a sigh of relief when Sharapova showed up--finally a leggy pretty blonde that could actually win tournaments.

And, seriously, pointing out how many hot blondes were hotter than the physically mediocre Kournikova (her tennis was better than her face, but neither explained the amount of adulation) but just didn't play tennis didn't seem to affect anyone's calibration--it took until she did bad krav to turn off a number of the guys I was trying to plead the case to...

JESUS.

I would like to set up a "How hot are you, how hot is your mother, how hot is your daughter?" poll for those complainants. And once the answer is in, the next question is "AND WHO CARES????"


Laura - Jul 08, 2013 6:17:07 am PDT #28463 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Yeah, clearly looks has so much to do with winning tennis tournaments. When I saw the report this morning they showed a number of views of Bartoli and a)she is quite cute and b) what the hell difference does it make!!! It isn't like football or basketball where looks clearly make the player.


Laura - Jul 08, 2013 6:23:15 am PDT #28464 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

The BBC apology link [link]

So do we forgive the guy for saying this...

"I just wonder if her dad, because he has obviously been the most influential person in her life, did say to her when she was 12, 13, 14 maybe, 'listen, you are never going to be, you know, a looker.

"'You are never going to be somebody like a Sharapova, you're never going to be 5ft 11, you're never going to be somebody with long legs, so you have to compensate for that.

"'You are going to have to be the most dogged, determined fighter that anyone has ever seen on the tennis court if you are going to make it', and she kind of is."


Dana - Jul 08, 2013 6:25:36 am PDT #28465 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

No, we think he's a shithead.

Also, Sharapova is quite often characterized as a "dogged, determined fighter", so it's not like there's any rational connection with what he's talking about.


Juliebird - Jul 08, 2013 6:30:20 am PDT #28466 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Don't follow tennis, but Bartoli is quite attractive and really badass-looking, imo. By which I mean to say, I don't get where any of those comments could come from.


Jesse - Jul 08, 2013 6:34:53 am PDT #28467 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

People are the worst. seriously.


§ ita § - Jul 08, 2013 6:35:21 am PDT #28468 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What I've said to Megan is "You're never going to be a Williams sister--you're never going to be taller than five foot one. But DAT ASS."

No, we do actually tell her that. It's the ass of a sprinter, and that accounts for her ability to cover the court without the advantage of a foot more height--that and her "happy feet". Because the speech they give, if you take out the "looker" bit, and the dodgy use of Sharapova as the comparison (valid, but leading), is a decent "the game got tall and you didn't" speech.

But, like Dana alludes, nobody's in the top 100 without being a dogged determined fighter. It's the price of admission to the big leagues. And nobody wins anything without having been consistently the doggedest fuck out there all week.


Laura - Jul 08, 2013 7:11:31 am PDT #28469 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

The part that caught my attention was I expected an unattractive person when I heard the controversy, and she isn't. Yes, tall is a legitimate issue, but it isn't the only factor for success in the game. Perceived attractiveness of course is not a factor at all. People!