You got fired, and you still hang around here like a big loser. Why can't he?

Cordelia ,'Chosen'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Laura - Jun 26, 2013 5:44:35 am PDT #27214 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

So, are the marriages that took place previously in CA now legal again?


billytea - Jun 26, 2013 5:44:54 am PDT #27215 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

askye is me. What's the best sources for this people are using?

Here.


§ ita § - Jun 26, 2013 5:45:45 am PDT #27216 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I was just catching up on my fanart tumblr account and it's all filibuster liveblogging with a side of DOMA, and now I'm crying and I haven't even showered yet, and today is a go-into-the-office day.

WITH GAY RITES!

My friend Mike cast this -- I think they looked for people in online relationships where they had never met the other, but it was too hard to find many people who really didn't suspect

Who gives a fuck if you go to meet your online girlfriend who's both a girl and friendly? That shit must be skewed from the get go. I do love how much you get to see of cameras, though. There are like five on the car---maybe soon all moves will be found footage because everyone will mount phones on their cars like that and just do life.

I mean, there's perfect footage of that plane's engine exploding in the UK the other day, because some civilian said, "Hey, let me record a plane taking off, here at the airport of all places".

But, marriage!


Strix - Jun 26, 2013 5:46:17 am PDT #27217 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Ha, bt!

And you ain't wrong.


askye - Jun 26, 2013 5:47:20 am PDT #27218 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

Another question - could people use the DOMA decision as away to challenge laws in states where gay marriage is legal.

I mean, could a couple sue saying the law violates their Fifth amendment rights and use the DOMA ruling as some kind of precedent that it was overturned on a federal level?


billytea - Jun 26, 2013 5:48:48 am PDT #27219 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

And you ain't wrong.

Seriously! CNN gave me no love, gay or otherwise.


Jessica - Jun 26, 2013 5:50:26 am PDT #27220 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

ETA: So if a couple gets married in a state where it is legal and moves to another state, where it is not, are they legally married, with the rights and privileges recognized and protected?

I think this is what DOMA was preventing, so yes? i.e. if you get married in California but honeymoon in Vegas, you stay legally married the whole time.


Steph L. - Jun 26, 2013 5:52:44 am PDT #27221 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

ETA: So if a couple gets married in a state where it is legal and moves to another state, where it is not, are they legally married, with the rights and privileges recognized and protected?

I think this is what DOMA was preventing, so yes? i.e. if you get married in California but honeymoon in Vegas, you stay legally married the whole time.

I thought DOMA was about federal benefits and such. Like, if you get married in Vermont but live in Ohio, you can file federal taxes jointly, but not state taxes, since Ohio still doesn't recognize gay marriage.


Cashmere - Jun 26, 2013 5:53:51 am PDT #27222 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I suffered my first serious derby-related injury on Saturday night. I tore a calf muscle and am on crutches for a few days. And off skates for a few weeks.

Bummed out, but at least happy about DOMA's smackdown.


Sparky1 - Jun 26, 2013 5:54:56 am PDT #27223 of 30001
Librarian Warlord

So if a couple gets married in a state where it is legal and moves to another state, where it is not, are they legally married, with the rights and privileges recognized and protected?

For *federal* purposes. If you move to a state that does not recognize your marriage, it still won't.

could a couple sue saying the law violates their Fifth amendment rights and use the DOMA ruling as some kind of precedent that it was overturned on a federal level?

Remains to be seen. I haven't read Kennedy's opinion to parse out the holding (law) and dicta (comments that are not law that couldn't be used as precedent) but the state's rights argument doesn't appear to be a strong as commentators thought it would.