I was also half day and we had nap time.

Things I would like in my current work situation for $300, Alex.

As I remember, pre-school was for the kids whose mothers worked and kindergarten was for the kids who needed help academically, generally called Head Start. All other kids went straight to 1st grade. This was in the late '60s (so damned long ago now).

The last time I looked at the research, the academic advantages of holding back disappear by third grade, and overall it's better to put your kid in a more stimulating environment earlier.

That's the research I've seen. Sandra Aanodt and Sam Wang wrote an article for the NYT on the subject. (Sam Wang is a neuroscientist at Princeton who also produces the election metapolling blog, Princeton Election Consortium.) Conversely, Biyi and I went to a talk by an expert in early childhood development, who was of the opinion that there were no harmful effects from redshirting. I'm somewhat sceptical since she claimed there was no research to the contrary, and courtesy of the Aanodt/Wang article, I'm aware of a number of pieces of such research. Nonetheless, Biyi and I are agreed that Ryan needs to be ready in terms of maturity and social development.

I skipped kindergarten and went straight into first grade, as I was already reading well above that level and doing better than that with numbers. I was generally the youngest in my class thereafter. It certainly didn't hurt me academically, indeed I suspect I'd have been quite bored otherwise. It still didn't challenge me enough to develop good study habits, and there were times when I was behind my peers in maturity. On the other hand, my youngest brother got held back a year in primary school, and his PhD suggests it didn't do him much damage.

In Ryan's case, he'll be ready academically, and his kinder is assuring me that he's ready socially. We still have a question mark over how he handles frustrations and opposition, but his teachers tell me he does better with the other children than with us (which makes sense to me). He's become pretty adept with saying "Stop that, I don't like it!" Just recently he's become a lot more discerning about who he spends time with too. He now avoids the rougher kids and plays more with the quieter kids (which coincidentally includes the two kids who will also go to his school, so that's nice).

Anyway, we'll see what the field officer says before making the final call.

So, did you know that if you pour liquid nitrogen into a pool, the liquid nitrogen will boil in the water, leaving lots of nitrogen gas that displaces oxygen near the pool and leaves no oxygen to breathe for those in the pool?

Watch as this liquid nitrogen pool party goes horribly wrong

A recent Jägermeister pool party in Mexico turned to panic after organizers poured four buckets of liquid nitrogen into the water, sending eight to hospital and leaving one partygoer in a coma. As you'll see in this video, things got ugly pretty quick.

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I didn't know this before. But in recent years I've seen enough science videos on the internets to pick up this info.

Crap, I wore my computer glasses home and left my regular glasses in my desk at work. There's not a big difference in prescription, but I think that puts the kibosh on going to the wine tasting down the street (which I was already losing the will to go to just because I'm tired).

Things I would like in my current work situation for $300, Alex.

Right?

When I was in third grade, the class came to a consensus that we missed naps and we should start taking them again. The teacher was down with it, so we did. That was nice.

In reality, I don't think I could deal with a nap at work. The nap would be fine; waking up and needing to work some more would suck.

OMG, my local public affairs show is so shitty -- they literally cut to black in the middle of a sentence talking about James Gandolfini's death and started playing "Don't Stop Believing."

PreK in NYC has naptime, but not K. And in PreK only the morning and full-day classes - Dylan was in an afternoon class so no nap. (Which worked out fine since he gave up naps around age 2.)

Interestingly, K is also technically optional in NYC public schools. There was a proposal to make it mandatory a couple of years ago, but it failed on the basis that making K mandatory would mean giving schools enough money for all the extra classrooms and heaven forfend we should support universal early childhood education with slightly higher property taxes.

Huh. In SF they're pushing for universal pre-K.

We have "Universal Pre-K" in NYC too but it doesn't mean what it sounds like. It's a subsidy program for low-income families to send their kids to private preschools (or, more often, private daycares where part of the fee can be paid by a UPK subsidy). And those programs extend through age 6, so they're also a substitute for kindergarten if necessary.

I skipped kindergarten, but I'd already gone to full day nursery school at age 4 for the socialization and adapting to daily routines. Aside from the aforementioned hijinks-averting age diference, it also meant that I was in the same class as my best friend when I transferred schools (met him the first day of 2nd grade and we've been friends ever since) and I was able to meet my closest circle of HS friends when most of us took German together. Since I'm still good friends with them almost 30 years later, I'm pretty glad it happened that way even if I might have had a better chance at top honors in the class of 88.