Sorry, Captain. I'm real sorry. I shoulda kept better care of her. Usually she lets me know when something's wrong. Maybe she did, I just wasn't paying attention...

Kaylee ,'Out Of Gas'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - Jun 18, 2013 6:27:01 pm PDT #26319 of 30001

What gets me is all the stuff I learned in a DIY house as a kid? Has changed. I totally could not figure out my toilet float/feed. $60 warrantee visit for stupid. I'd never had radiators. Or a house fan. Hell, never even heard of the latter. Regional issues. But I can drywall patch and replace glass in single pane windows and flush a hot water heater like a champ! I have plaster walls and fancy pants factory windows.


Jessica - Jun 18, 2013 6:27:48 pm PDT #26320 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

YouTube is a great resource for minor home/car repair stuff - I haven't found a problem yet where there isn't a how-to video online showing how to solve it. And then even though half the time I wind up calling in a professional anyway, at least I know what they should be doing once they get here.


Strix - Jun 18, 2013 6:35:14 pm PDT #26321 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I knew college students 18-27, who didn't know how to WASH THEIR CLOTHES.

This is why I make M repeat back instructions to me, even though he's smart, and I am driven that he be taught common sense tasks, like cooking and cleaning properly. Last Xmas, (he was ten then) I washed the bedclothes and was all "OK, make your bed" and he didn't know how to put fitted sheets and pillowcases on. WTF? His mom had maids that come in 2x a month (so glad our child support is spent on maids and we can't pay utilities some months) and we did it together.

Next time, he did it himself, and did an OK job. I refuse to have a part in raising a child who cannot be pretty self-suuficient. Sure, some thing people don't know how to do, but making a bed? Washing clothes? Not knowing how to load and start a dishwasher at 10? I think of all the things I'd been taught at 10 and I boggle.

I know how to change my oil in my car in theory, but I go to Jiffy Lube, that's for fucking sure! Things like that.

I don't understand people who don't TRY. Everyone has a learning curve, but DANG...some people expect someone to do everything for them! But then, I have a need to teach people stuff; I love teaching.

Oh, and sarameg, I'm not dissing you; M's mom is NOT DIY; she was raised well-off and prefers to be waited on hand and foot. And then yells at M for doing things SHE models. ARGH. And she avers I'm an indifferent parental figure. Why -- because he LOVES me? Because my discipline is rational and explanatory and hands-on teaching and making him try things himself with instruction if he's stuck? Sorry to rant -- it's just so...UGH.


§ ita § - Jun 18, 2013 6:38:57 pm PDT #26322 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I was gonna come here with a Jillifont video, but I prefer this snake one from Gawker: [link] I'm glad I didn't know about that nightmare option when I was a kid.

"Hey, Mr Plumber! Jody on the interTUBE has a different wrench from you! Are you sure you're doing it right??" Being backseat driven by complete strangers who aren't even live must be fun times.

Well, at least it is when I do it.

I've been assuming everyone hears noises and there's some processing delay/decision mechanism that turns them into words--except in scenarios where you accidentally hear that one time they mention half a scandal, and you have to stalk them to find out the other half and you never manage to.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 18, 2013 6:41:38 pm PDT #26323 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I moved out of the house at 23, and my mother was genuinely surprised that I was immediately able to clean and cook for myself (with the occasional advice call for the latter). The thing is, while I rarely did anything around the house beyond pet care, taking out the trash, and routine straightening up, I understood how to do the other stuff and was just never motivated to do it myself before Supermom stepped in and did it herself. Switched to an environment where my clutter/dirt tolerance was lower than that of everyone else in residence, I turned into Monica Geller.


SuziQ - Jun 18, 2013 6:45:52 pm PDT #26324 of 30001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Found out recently that one of CJ's ARP buddies has never done a load of laundry. His mom does all the wash and irons everything for him. Including his Carhart pants. I used to think she was sane but now I worry.


le nubian - Jun 18, 2013 6:48:54 pm PDT #26325 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

that snake shit I watched 3 times with my mouth open. That is not even cool. Not even cool.


Zenkitty - Jun 18, 2013 6:53:12 pm PDT #26326 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Some things people don't know how to do aren't regional, though, like address an envelope, or write a check. I got stuck in line at the grocery behind a woman who was teaching a college-age girl how to fill out a check properly. (I think it was her son's GF.) And I got stuck in line at the post office (not on the same day) behind a young woman who'd put her own address in the To field and the recipient's address in the From field, and didn't understand how that was wrong. The clerk later assured me that it was not the first time that had happened.


Zenkitty - Jun 18, 2013 6:54:37 pm PDT #26327 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Oh, and the snake thing is cool! She turned on the light first, then opened the door and headed out. I notice the doors were latch-style handles, though. Bet snakey would've been stymied by turn knobs. (Right? Yeah. Gosh, that snake was huge.)


Strix - Jun 18, 2013 6:56:53 pm PDT #26328 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

As a freshman in college, I was changing clothes in a new friends room, borrowing an outfit. I was in mismatched but cute lingerie, and she said, with utter horror, "Your mom LETS you wear mismatched underwear?"

I was all "My MOTHER doesn't worry about my underwear for me or buy most of it for me" since I was having sex at 17 and started buying sexy bras and undies occasionally at 16. Sure, I had some cotton plainish stuff for normal she's bought me (this was 1990, not now, when even 8 year olds have kinda sexy and girly undies) but my mom didn't even WASH my clothes, much less worry that my bra didn't match my friggin' panties. This is the same girl that was the firsth adultish person I knew who didn't know anything about how to wash he clothes.

Once we hit 10, we were responsible for washing all out cloths and sheets, and we helped out with laundry a LOT before then. I think I started folding baskets of clothes and such when I was 5 or 6. I just don't get it, unless you're crazy-rich, and even then, I'd be all "You are learning how to do a basic cooking and cleaning" -- just like my dad taught us girls basic car maintenance and light carpentry.