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Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


meara - May 13, 2013 8:13:11 am PDT #22324 of 30001

My roommate tried to take her cat outside. The first time he bolted back indoors. The second time she shut the door, so he belly flipped on the ground and refused to move. I think he is an indoor cat.


Connie Neil - May 13, 2013 8:16:58 am PDT #22325 of 30001
brillig

he belly flipped on the ground and refused to move

Also known as "grab the planet and refuse to let go."


Sophia Brooks - May 13, 2013 8:23:49 am PDT #22326 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

The time I tired to take my cat for a walk was the time he tried to kill me (does anyone remember that?)


dcp - May 13, 2013 8:41:38 am PDT #22327 of 30001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Not selected for a jury, whew.

I suppose I should go on in to work. Bother.


amych - May 13, 2013 8:44:04 am PDT #22328 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Mycroft is leash-trained, and it wasn't a huge deal with him. I've had other cats who absolutely wouldn't go for it, and I suspect the individual cat's temperament makes a much bigger difference than it does with dogs. The best tips I have are to let them get totally used to the leash and harness indoors first, in a few sessions of no more than a couple of minutes, and without even touching the leash except to keep it from getting caught anywhere. After that, move on to picking up the leash, but not trying to "walk" them anywhere, then to getting them to go your way by calling/bribery/strategic use of the dot/whatev rather than trying to pull or drag them. By now, he's totally happy to have his gear strapped on and head out the door -- we don't exactly go anywhere, but spending 15 minutes at lunchtime a couple of times a week sniffing around the yard and chewing grass and stalking bugs makes him happier. We go where he wants, and the leash is basically there to stop him bolting out of reach if something goes pear-shaped.

I believe Calli also walks Liefur; at least, she was one of my "this is totally possible" guides when M. was a wee thing, so if she doesn't, delusion-Calli and imaginary-Liefur were an inspiration.

I suspect that a lot of the cat-walking freakouts you can find on YouTube are down to the fact that a cat who has never had a chance to get used to the gear gets that AND a whole new environment AND a human alternately laughing loudly and trying to physically drag them in one direction or another, and cats are Really Not Good With Change.

(Temperament: M is mostly a big mellow boy-cat bum, but when he gets freaked by something he goes super-reactive and fight or flight without much warning. As an ex-feral, he'd looooooove to be allowed to hang outside whenever he wants, but as a very reactive ex-feral, he'd be way too likely to skedaddle off out of sight at the first thunderclap or car backfire; we live a block from the interstate; ain't gonna happen no matter how adorably you chirp out the windows, boyo.)


sarameg - May 13, 2013 8:54:04 am PDT #22329 of 30001

For Pumpkin, the halter and leash are one gigantic toy (this is the cat who will remove her collar to play with it) and thus the whole purpose is defeated. Unless the purpose was to watch her writhe and attack, which she can do without the harness on (she drags it all over the house.) Though I suppose I could probably keep her from bolting in random directions outdoors by dangling it....


Burrell - May 13, 2013 9:21:16 am PDT #22330 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Sorry, Consuela, about the craptastic, sleep-free night, and ~t, I hope the insomnia fairies bugger off tonight and let you sleep as well.

I've done a bit of groceries and tutored at the kids' school, but it feels like I haven't done anything yet. I think it'll take a bit before I adjust back into a summer schedule. oops.


Burrell - May 13, 2013 9:22:11 am PDT #22331 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Oh and billytea, that xkcd is wonderful! Must share it with the kids when they come home from school.


NoiseDesign - May 13, 2013 9:47:51 am PDT #22332 of 30001
Our wings are not tired

Sigh.

I called mom yesterday for mothers day and it was another conversation that was akin to having a three year old on the phone. She just has days when she is truly not there. I don't really know how often they are. I feel bad about not calling more often, but more often than not I get a minute or two on the phone that goes no where and honestly ends up just making me really sad.

There is also apparently some drama with caregivers and my sister. My sister wasn't there but the weekend caregiver tried to pull me into some of the gossip, or whatever you want to call it. I just don't have the spoons to deal with it. The thing is that means that I end up disengaging.

So yeah, it's the day after mother's day and I'm still upset about it.


Consuela - May 13, 2013 9:57:56 am PDT #22333 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

You guys, I'm about to order food online.

Oh, we did that yesterday for Mother's Day--there's a restaurant in Oakland that just does mac-n-cheese, about ten variations, so we got four orders of that and a big salad, bought it right off the website. So awesome. And I have the leftovers for lunch.

She just has days when she is truly not there. I don't really know how often they are. I feel bad about not calling more often, but more often than not I get a minute or two on the phone that goes no where and honestly ends up just making me really sad.

ND, I'm sorry you are also going through this. Just remember that she's pretty much living in the moment, and so you can help cheer her up a little bit just by talking to her. The downside of course is that she won't remember having talked to you, and she may say things which upset you, but it really isn't about you anymore. She's probably constantly bewildered and upset.

Anyway, two of my brothers called my mother yesterday and got concerned about the confusion she exhibited, but frankly I'd prefer the confusion to the horrible vicious harridan we got between 3 and 6 AM this morning...

And now I'm off to fix my face and catch a bus to work. Hopefully I don't look too much like the walking dead, on four hours of sleep.