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le nubian - May 04, 2013 10:37:11 am PDT #21512 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Matt,

sounds like you are on to something. DailyKos had a post about this: [link]


Cass - May 04, 2013 10:49:56 am PDT #21513 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I've only driven one keyless car, and never even heard of one without a steering wheel.

Keyless, yes. Steering wheelless, how?

Cancer Treatment Centers of America are on the shady side, aren't they?

I've always assumed that they are only appropriate for treating a very small subset of people diagnosed. You need to be very motivated, committed and also open to the whole range of treatments they offer. But I hadn't thought they were out and out shady. Off to read the article now.


le nubian - May 04, 2013 11:02:33 am PDT #21514 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I googled "complaints" and CTA and there are other things. They were investigated in 1993, but I didn't get that far in my reading.


Cass - May 04, 2013 11:33:10 am PDT #21515 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Okay, I think their marketing is kinda shady if you don't realize that they are a private and absolutely for profit hospital and not really open to the public. But I guess I realized that after about five seconds on Google.

There's a skeeviness to it in some respects because they are going after customers at a terrible time in their life. I mean, they aren't caring for the very sick or the poor but they are a business. They aren't doing any of it out of the good of their heart.

Some people are both more motivated and able and willing to pay for either amazing insurance or they can pay for the treatment.


Ginger - May 04, 2013 12:09:29 pm PDT #21516 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Science-based Medicine on Cancer Treatment Centers of America: [link]

I have also heard, although I can't find online support for this in a quick google, that CTCA leans towards using lower-dose chemo, which may mean that their patients feel better but might not be the best long-term choice.

In terms of "results," they not only cherry-pick patients, but also only report on a very limited subset of their patients. Many reputable treatment centers don't report results at all, because the concept of being "cured" of cancer is problematic. I was diagnosed in 2003 and lived for more than five years. My cancer recurred and spread nine years later. Am I a success or a failure?

One of the hardest parts of cancer treatment is that there is very little that the patient can do. People talk about someone having a long battle with cancer, but battle implies that the patient is doing the fighting. It's more accurate to think of the patient as the battlefield. I suspect part of the patient satisfaction with CTCA is that all these woo-woo therapies (which I suspect do not come cheaply) give the patients the feeling of *doing* something about their cancers.

I am particularly leery of a focus on nutrition, because I have seen people do very badly on chemo because they tried to stick with a lower calorie, fresh fruits and vegetables diet. This may be an excellent plan after chemo, but during chemo, patients need calories and a lot of them. If that means living on ice cream, so be it.


Lee - May 04, 2013 12:10:41 pm PDT #21517 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

-t just left, and I forgot to ask her about the coffee popsicles. Boo.

Walter was very chill and awesome, even when Fella was less so. He did pretty well, all things considered, but we both have some work and training to do so that he can be chill and awesome like Walter.


§ ita § - May 04, 2013 12:12:08 pm PDT #21518 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I drive LOTS of rental cars. They all have steering wheels.

All of my rentals have keys too, and CD players, so I don't know if they are a useful predictor. However, despite ND having owned two keyless cars, a quick random look at car features didn't show any mandatory keyless models (you can get Focus with or without) or that many with even the option. Keys may have an expiry date, but being mortal and being dying are two different nuances.

Wow. It appears the plot for Fast and Furious 6 is: Orgasm. That's very kind of them.


meara - May 04, 2013 12:15:08 pm PDT #21519 of 30001

All of my rentals have keys too, and CD players, so I don't know if they are a useful predictor.

Many of mine don't--they have a slot you can stick the "key" in to hold it, but you can also have it in your purse or the cupholder or whatever--to start the car you don't turn a key, you just hit the "start" button (or "Power" or whatever it's called). It may be one brand of cars that Hertz uses more or something, though.


§ ita § - May 04, 2013 12:44:54 pm PDT #21520 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have rented pretty exclusively through Enterprise for the past ten years, and even though they've gotten pretty fancy with the electronics (more than one person synced their phones up to a rental unit--I'd love to go through what they left on it), I have never been offered anything keyless at a midsize sedan level.

Now, the loaners at the BMW dealership are clearly a whole new level of "I can't get this car out of here unless someone helps me".


Cass - May 04, 2013 12:47:15 pm PDT #21521 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I didn't think Prius even gave you a keyyed option but I don't think it emphatically enough to search on a tablet.

What are the options to a steering wheel is what I really want to know.

One of the hardest parts of cancer treatment is that there is very little that the patient can do. People talk about someone having a long battle with cancer, but battle implies that the patient is doing the fighting. It's more accurate to think of the patient as the battlefield. I suspect part of the patient satisfaction with CTCA is that all these woo-woo therapies (which I suspect do not come cheaply) give the patients the feeling of *doing* something about their cancers.

Oh, I assume they are crazy expensive but I also think mindset and willingness to do some things can make a difference. You can't cure your cancer on your own but a willingness to eat at all when you feel awful and a willingness to do physical therapy to regain strength and mobility if you've been bedbound for weeks? I think those matter. Cancer is awful and it's not something you can treat with just a good attitude or juicing but I think being willing to try and beat it for whatever amount of time helps. Even if it is mostly psychological, that helps.