Yesterday, my life's like, 'Uh-oh, pop quiz!' Today it's like, 'rain of toads.'

Xander ,'Beneath You'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Burrell - May 01, 2013 7:45:54 pm PDT #21319 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I'm glad you are headed home, ita. I hope you can get some sleep.


Atropa - May 01, 2013 7:59:04 pm PDT #21320 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

My personal theory of business jargon is that in your average desk job there are only, like, ten conversations you're likely to ever have with a fellow business person, and everytime we get bored repeating ourselves we just invent another bullshit jargony way of saying the exact same thing.

In my more cynical moments at work (which have been a lot, lately), I will totally agree with this.

ita, I'm glad you're headed home.


Zenkitty - May 01, 2013 8:51:18 pm PDT #21321 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Can't believe I missed a discussion on cannibalism. Dang!

I hope you got relief and got home speedily, ita.

My current language pet peeve: what's the deal with "reach[ed] out to"? When did "contact" fall out of favor and get replaced by this feel-good bullshit phrase?

Damn, Steph, we are one brain sometimes. I've been gnashing my teeth over this very phrase for weeks now. Our new assistant is great but she constantly uses "reach out to" and it drives me crazy, and of course I can't ask her to stop. She's a recent college grad, and clearly someone taught her to say that and she thinks she's being business-like. I can't call it "feel-good bullshit" even though i agree.

In both instances, the program is trying to reach out to new students. It sounds better than strong arm.

Okay, sure, in that context you are in fact "reaching out to" someone. It's appropriate. When you're talking about, say, contacting authors who are weeks late with their proofs, we're not reaching out, we're demanding and threatening, politely.

Also, I note with amusement that in the 1930s people were railing against the use of the word "contact" (a noun!) to mean "to communicate with," and its use as a verb was controversial until 1969. Nero Wolfe would be scolding me for wanting my assistant to just say "contact"!


Juliebird - May 01, 2013 9:55:48 pm PDT #21322 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

But then shouldn't orientation being oriention?!!! American English, I hatesez you some(a lot of)times!


§ ita § - May 01, 2013 10:33:30 pm PDT #21323 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Going to bed late. Hopefully the meds should be kicking in now. Fingers are crossed for efficient kickage in.

I did mention to a few of the nurses that I didn't miss the ER, but that there were some great people there, and I thought fondly of them. Some were flattered, and some told me to stop being stupid and never come back.

But the look on the J'can woman's face made it feel--worthwhile? I mean, the good ones of these people saved my sanity (inasmuch as any is left, it's not their fault there's so little), my heart broke for her and the thought that she would share that pain with me, and that there was an ounce of anything I could help with...it's nothing compared to what they do, but I always loved being helpful for them. I also drew one of the pharmacists and gave him the picture. Uh, different kinda thing.


Cass - May 01, 2013 10:49:12 pm PDT #21324 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

and the thought that she would share that pain with me, and that there was an ounce of anything I could help with...it's nothing compared to what they do

Offering comfort to someone grieving is not nothing. There are days when that moment is everything.

I hope your meds are already kicking in and you get good sleep.


Strix - May 02, 2013 12:50:26 am PDT #21325 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Um.

No one can use words anymore; this guy used them ALL.

It ain't pretty. [link]


Steph L. - May 02, 2013 2:30:15 am PDT #21326 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

In both instances, the program is trying to reach out to new students. It sounds better than strong arm.

Okay, sure, in that context you are in fact "reaching out to" someone. It's appropriate.

I'm good with that. Or, say, "reaching out to" offer comfort to a bereaved person.

When you're talking about, say, contacting authors who are weeks late with their proofs, we're not reaching out, we're demanding and threatening, politely.

But...also this. And really, when you are a reporter trying to get ahold of a grocery store manager, "reaching out to" just sounds so hippie-dippy, like you're trying to make a deep soulful connection, when all you want is some cold hard info so you can put together a 15-second clip about soup for the 10:00 news.

It just implies some sort of emotional investment, when, in the vast majority of the cases in which I hear it used (my experience, okay?), all it means is "we called this dude and we got dumped into voicemail."

Also, I note with amusement that in the 1930s people were railing against the use of the word "contact" (a noun!) to mean "to communicate with," and its use as a verb was controversial until 1969. Nero Wolfe would be scolding me for wanting my assistant to just say "contact"!

Ahahahaha! I would be the scold in 1930 saying "stop using 'contact,' you hippie-dippy weirdos!" BUSTED.

ION, I am awake and chugging 32 oz. of water for an abdominal ultrasound in 90 minutes (for as-yet unexplained pelvic/abdominal pain). This is the transvaginal ultrasound that requires a full bladder and SUCKS so very much because not being allowed to pee is the cruelest thing in the world.

And unexplained pelvic pain sucks a lot, too.


Jesse - May 02, 2013 3:03:05 am PDT #21327 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Eeps -- good luck with that, Steph.

I just now heard on the radio that Marketplace wants to have a discussion of hated business jargon on their Facebook page, so we are right on time with this.


Frankenbuddha - May 02, 2013 3:39:30 am PDT #21328 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Condolences to Nilly and her family. So sorry to hear of your loss.

Continued relief-ma for ita. Hopefully one day we won't need to say that to you ever again.