Mal: How drunk was I last night? Jayne: Well I dunno. I passed out.

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Burrell - Nov 25, 2012 7:27:29 pm PST #2101 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I think you might have to concentrate on him anyway, and persuade him not to give in.

Yeah, but I'm guessing that's easier said than done. I'm sure he's going through his own special brand of hard right now.


Strix - Nov 25, 2012 7:28:30 pm PST #2102 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Oh, 'suela, that's so hard. I feel so bad for you.

Tom, you are welcome to join my fun, mostly sane fam with delicious food for Thanksgiving next year.

That's all I got now. Full of delicious food and cocktails; brain stupid.


Dana - Nov 25, 2012 8:14:06 pm PST #2103 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Ay ay ay, Suela. Does your mother listen to the doctors? My grandmother, who did not have dementia but who redefined the word "stubborn" listened to doctors when she wouldn't listen to her kids, because the doctor was an authority figure.


Consuela - Nov 25, 2012 9:02:11 pm PST #2104 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Does your mother listen to the doctors?

She's way too irrational to listen to anyone. Even my brother the doctor, who handles her as well as anyone could. She's operating on pure fear and instinct, and will basically contradict anything someone says, out of terror that agreeing will end in something she doesn't like.

The current plan (after six drinks, two pizzas, and two desserts with my sister & oldest brother) is to keep on keeping on, and to sell the remaining bedroom set in the old place as soon as humanly possible. That way we can honestly say that there's nowhere for them to sleep if they go back there.

Oh, and her meds are all being managed by the folks at the new place, and she can't go cold turkey on any of them...


Cass - Nov 25, 2012 10:10:35 pm PST #2105 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

What a stressful situation, 'Suela. I .. don't have any useful advice. But you are so doing the right thing and it sounds so hard.


Cass - Nov 25, 2012 11:36:50 pm PST #2106 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Someone (possibly ita !?) must know what store carries the ginger juice.


flea - Nov 26, 2012 2:09:02 am PST #2107 of 30001
information libertarian

So, mr. flea has been on the ground in China for about 30 hours now, and I have not heard from him. They have the internets in China, right? Is he likely to be having some communication issues, or should I be worrying?


Jesse - Nov 26, 2012 3:05:59 am PST #2108 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I think he's likely to be having communications issues -- I think you need a proxy to get to like gmail and stuff.

Oh god, Suela. I'm sure the staff can help you guys through the transition. And the Alzheimer's Association hotline people might have strategies for you in the meantime. They are 24 hours! (Here, at least.)


§ ita § - Nov 26, 2012 4:53:51 am PST #2109 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is there anything else you can do to make the apartment not an option? I'm assuming that confiscating the keys isn't enough? I think that trying to speed ahead to the point where they can't go back might be hard on your father in the interim. There are a million reasons for him to cave. So if you can give him an iron clad excuse (it doesn't have to be true, but I'm thinking it will be better for him if he does honestly believe it) that might clamp down on things.

I don't have any idea what that might be, though. But it looks like your father is going to be in an impossible place as soon as you guys aren't right there in front of them.

My ginger juice was a gift, actually. I never found a source myself, but after popping into Whole Foods recently, I do figure that's a good meatspace bet, otherwise it's the internet.


brenda m - Nov 26, 2012 5:22:06 am PST #2110 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I'm assuming that confiscating the keys isn't enough?

What about confiscating the suitcases? That feels like something that could be done relatively quietly (not like taking away the car keys) and might at least slow things down long enough for you to react if he gives in again.

Or not. It's hard to think of anything that couldn't potentially escalate the hysteria since in her frame of mind that could be, well, anything.

I'm really sorry things are so hard and hope it settles down soon. If it helps, I think a year ago you probably wouldn't have believed you could get them to this stage at all.