Look, you got a little stabbed the other day. That's bound to make anyone a mite ornery.

Mal ,'Ariel'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


le nubian - Nov 19, 2012 2:52:23 pm PST #1488 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I have not read any of her books, but I thought one of her books featured a biracial person.

Shouldn't she just name everyone's race? I don't get any kind of naming/not naming if you aim to be progressive.


Kat - Nov 19, 2012 2:59:51 pm PST #1489 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I'm confused. I'm pretty sure that Obama has made millions in the past years. His last tax return shows he made $789,000ish in 2011 with most of that coming from book royalties. So probably over the course of two years he's made at least a million. Good on him for spending some of it. He's keeping our economy going.

eta I looked it up because he has released enough returns. In 2010 he made $1,795,614, with only $395,188 from his presidential salary the rest from his royalties. So yes, he's made millions.


Jesse - Nov 19, 2012 3:04:41 pm PST #1490 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

The assumption here seems to be that white people don't mention race of white people.

It is my experience that in books written by white people, only white people's race isn't mentioned, generally. If that was your question.


Sophia Brooks - Nov 19, 2012 3:42:38 pm PST #1491 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Also, in real life, I have found that black people mention either race or shade, but white people mention nothing. It is actually pretty funny to watch someone try to describe a black person without mentioning they are black. But teh black people I know will say "Oh, Katie, she's white, has red hair". "Oh Jessie, the light skinned one, not the dark skinned one.". Meanwhile the white people are all like "Jessie-- she has brown hair and eyes, kinda short..."


Jesse - Nov 19, 2012 3:48:57 pm PST #1492 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm not going to lie, I have made a point of describing people of white.


le nubian - Nov 19, 2012 3:49:23 pm PST #1493 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

So I was talking to one of my students who is a White woman. She married a Filipino and many of his family flew to Pennsylvania where she is from for the wedding.

She is from a small town with little diversity and apparently many of the townspeople thought her groom and his family were Black! I guess they hadn't met too many Black people either.

I screamed with laughter! I couldn't help myself.


Jesse - Nov 19, 2012 3:51:46 pm PST #1494 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh lord.


Sophia Brooks - Nov 19, 2012 3:54:38 pm PST #1495 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I think people are not that observant. I grew up in a small town with one black family, and it would seem kind of rude to single out their kids and say OH, you mean the BLACK kids. However, once I met a more diverse population and heard them speaking, I now use white, black, etc as a descriptor because it it actually seems sort of rude not to, like it is somehow this big shameful secret!


Amy - Nov 19, 2012 4:05:50 pm PST #1496 of 30001
Because books.

Weekend Update skit that didn't make it to air. It's faux!Guy Fieri responding to the review of his restaurant. I guess they taped the rehearsal.


sarameg - Nov 19, 2012 4:13:28 pm PST #1497 of 30001

There is serious conversation here. But my digital converter box is daid, my cats are insane, I'm doing laundry, took out the trash, but I AM HOME. Awesome neighbor picked me up, was actually in the house less than an hour after I landed.