Mal: How come you didn't turn on me, Jayne? Jayne: Money wasn't good enough. Mal: What happens when it is? Jayne: Well... that'll be an interesting day.

'Serenity'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


askye - Nov 09, 2012 12:57:14 pm PST #146 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

I found this about the Hispanic voting numbers in 2008 [link]


§ ita § - Nov 09, 2012 1:15:52 pm PST #147 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Interesting. I'm curious about what might have changed between now and then--obviously people have had a chance to see what Obama's like in office, but I'm also curious about demographics that might have been increasingly alienated over the past year by GOP shenanigans--are Hispanics feeling more uncomfortable? Are women clenching their knees and telling them to get away from their uteruses?


le nubian - Nov 09, 2012 1:18:11 pm PST #148 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

ita,

yes. What is interesting too is that in Missouri, Akin was polling below McCaskill, but he lost in a bigger landslide than was anticipated. A polling specialist seemed to think that some women on the phone said they were voting for Akin and changed their minds at the polls.


Tom Scola - Nov 09, 2012 1:19:12 pm PST #149 of 30001
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“One of the least commented-upon aspects of the election returns is that well over fifty per cent of Caucasian females voted for Romney, too. Not as many of them as white men, of course, but a solid majority. Indeed, as a proportion of the total, more white women voted for Romney on Tuesday than voted for George W. Bush, in 2004, or for John McCain, in 2008.”


Jesse - Nov 09, 2012 1:19:41 pm PST #150 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

AHA! Figured out the magic words to use with UPS customer service: "Is there someone else I can speak to who might have that information?" That got me a supervisor who is telling me he has the local office on the other line. I still have no coffee table, but I somehow feel closer. He's "going to see" if they can deliver it tomorrow. Of course, I had shit to do tomorrow! But whatever. I'm starting to think God doesn't want me to have a new coffee table. (The last one I bought didn't fit in my mother's car and I had to return it on the spot.)


Jesse - Nov 09, 2012 1:35:14 pm PST #151 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh, I can come pick it up at your center tomorrow? No I can't, you fuckers! Someone's supposed to call me back.


Jesse - Nov 09, 2012 1:37:02 pm PST #152 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Also, white women are obviously the worst.


Laura - Nov 09, 2012 1:46:31 pm PST #153 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Not verified with statistical evidence, but just observation. The Hispanic vote in S Florida has a wide South as well as Latin American origin. There has been a shift from conservative Republican to Progressive Democrat. A lot of it is generational. Catholic pro-life anti-communism very conservative in both social and economic issues ruled when I first moved here 30 some years ago. Now the Hispanic population is as mixed on social and economic issues as the rest of our population. The Immigration policy is yet another matter. Not even policy so much as perceived bigotry. Do I vote for them that wish my parents never came here or those that embrace diversification.

My polls are not based on a huge sampling, but my routine encounters with fellow Floridians has shown a dramatic shift in political affiliation. They also had to endure a change from Republican governors like Jeb and Charlie with sensible views on Immagration to our current sorry excuse for a governor who may have personally driven a number of citizens away from the Republican Party.

I don't know if this is the case in other states.


Tom Scola - Nov 09, 2012 1:54:05 pm PST #154 of 30001
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Also, white women are obviously the worst.

C’mon, it’s not like they’re white men.


Amy - Nov 09, 2012 2:00:47 pm PST #155 of 30001
Because books.

Indeed, as a proportion of the total, more white women voted for Romney on Tuesday than voted for George W. Bush, in 2004, or for John McCain, in 2008.

That makes me really sad.