I just think you're freakin' out 'cause you have to fight someone prettier than you.

Dawn ,'The Killer In Me'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Nov 17, 2012 10:17:28 am PST #1286 of 30001
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

I'd probably go with silken tofu.

Speaking of which, Trader Joe's has silken tofu now, the shelf-stable kind like Mori-Nu (but with some Trader Joe's name). I'm thrilled because I need it to make a corn casserole dish for Thanksgiving.


Jesse - Nov 17, 2012 10:30:28 am PST #1287 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

That people really would behave like that, or talk like that, or those streets really intersect, or that's actually how physics works, something. But how much realism and in what aspects can vary a whole lot just for me, and I imagine other people have entirely different demands.

Sure -- because I know I've enjoyed stuff where none of those things were true, but probably not all at once.


-t - Nov 17, 2012 10:46:16 am PST #1288 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Right - there needs to be something I can recognize, I think, but if there's nothing new, then why would I bother? So I like a mix.

Eta: although for me the "realism" doesn't have to reflect actual reality so much as be believable. So, for demographics, since most people overestimate minority populations, probably minorities should be over-represented in casting to increase plausibility.


Anne W. - Nov 17, 2012 10:50:42 am PST #1289 of 30001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Anne, you have a plan (why did I type dress? I guess that's my plans for today leaking out my fingers), and that's the important thing. Make sure everyone knows you have a plan--in a job that finally makes me feel like I am empowered and have a level of autonomy (although my boss wishes I did less¹). Take it from fuckup or possible fuckup to managed risk.

That's what I'm planning. I actually fired off an email to him today (went into work to check on something that was supposed to happen while I was out yesterday) and gave a brief précis of what I needed to go over with him (problem, solution). I sandwiched it in between two pieces of good news on the project. I do feel somewhat better.

Beverly, I've got a heavy workout scheduled for tomorrow morning, but I'm going to find something to do today. I do think that will help.


Jesse - Nov 17, 2012 11:08:08 am PST #1290 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

That was really smart, Anne.


-t - Nov 17, 2012 11:15:03 am PST #1291 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That sounds like a good approach, Anne. I hope you can relax a little more.

Autocorrect, gah!


Jessica - Nov 17, 2012 1:04:33 pm PST #1292 of 30001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

The problem with minorities in Hollywood goes way beyond demographics, though. Because yes, there are a LOT of white people even in big diverse cities who have only white people for friends, and their stories can easily be told with 100% accuracy without casting any minorities at all. The problem is that those kinds of stories are vastly overrepresented in the same way that men's stories are vs women - yes, there are many situations where a white guy might go through an experience in which the only other players are also white guys, but why are ALL OF THE MOVIES ABOUT THAT ONE DUDE??


§ ita § - Nov 17, 2012 1:05:00 pm PST #1293 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I finally read an article that explains the sort of uses for technology that the presidential campaigns were trying to innovate. It is perhaps because it's primarily about Narwhal that they go into more details--since it worked, and stuff happened, and it wasn't crippled and pie in the sky: [link]

But bits of the article are weird. I can't tell who the audience is. There's a pretty condescending "let me explain nerds to you" section about the developer leading the charge:

Yet if you've spent a lot of time around tech people, around Burning Man devotees, around startups, around San Francisco, around BBSs, around Reddit, Harper Reed probably makes sense to you. He's a cool hacker. [...]. He supports open source. He likes Japan. He says fuck a lot. He goes to hipster bars that serve vegan Mexican food, and where a quarter of the staff and clientele have mustaches.

That doesn't strike me like it's actually about educating the reader. Most tech guys aren't like him, but that doesn't mean he's a weirdo that's hard to wrap your head around. He's alternative, he's cool, he's bright.

But it sounds like they're setting the tone of not really talking to people they expect to be familiar with his "sort", given the continuation of "ooh look at this!" adulatory description.

Anyroad--then the article quotes a description of Narwhal:

The second part is an API portion. You don't want a million consumers getting data via SQL." The API allowed people to access parts of the data without letting them get at the SQL database on the backend. It provided a safe way for Dashboard, the Call Tool (which helped people make calls), and the Twitter Blaster to pull data

How much sense does that make to people who aren't in IT or are IT adjacent? I don't have the perspective to tell. It did seem a bit opaque to me, but you don't really have to know what an API really is--it just feels acronym heavy and metaphor light.

Dunno.

Speaking of technology, it finally occurred to me that I can click that microphone on my phone's home screen and say "Find me the nearest supermarket" and lo and behold, my decision is pretty much made about which is the best route to take home with the best shopping options. If need be, it will speak back to me to get me there.

Why am I not doing basic stuff like that more?

Der.


§ ita § - Nov 17, 2012 1:12:54 pm PST #1294 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

their stories can easily be told with 100% accuracy without casting any minorities at all

It's not that I'd ever argue that one show has to shoulder the "burden" of making its cast the 50% white that LA is (naturally that's all LA--no one lives in all LA). But at a higher level, if someone's not doing it, then the numbers are never going to look good.

And given that we know the stories are not being told about Pleasantville, PA I feel it's remarkably disingenuous for people to insist the numbers should match the census of the entire country. Also, the numbers they were looking at were for lead characters only (here: [link] ) and no one was considering if there should be minority families or anything really weird like that. And they defended the first stats, of specified race, but could not explain to me why so many casting calls needed to specify an ethnicity, any ethnicity. Will the stories be ruined if you audition race blind by default? Why be so defensive about that? Are you scared that the coloureds are going to take all the acting jobs like they ruined sports and music if there's a remotely prejudice free selection process?

Ooh--I think this L&O:UK is the hipster grifter chick episode. Was that the one where the cop gets kinda hoodwinked into getting too close to the "victim"?


shrift - Nov 17, 2012 1:32:42 pm PST #1295 of 30001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

My hand is still swollen and bruised, and that a friend of mine at brunch today told me I really should get it x-rayed. Urgent care, or ER?