You two carried me through that war. Now I need you to carry me just a little bit further. If you can.

Tracy ,'The Message'


Natter 71: Someone is wrong on the Internet  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


erikaj - Feb 16, 2013 10:56:46 am PST #11587 of 30001
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-

I like Dan Savage, even though his discomfort with ladyparts is sometimes quite obvious.(Sometimes his column depresses me, though because they're all jaded and stuff and I haven't gotten to a lot of ordinary things yet.)


Jesse - Feb 16, 2013 10:58:41 am PST #11588 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Viva la difference?

They're in denial. That's the idea. They don't want to just come out as gay so they tentatively keep one foot in the bisexual status.
That's just for men, right? Bi women are supposed to really be straight? I.e., "someone" (MEN) came up with these stories that mean everyone is actually into them.


DavidS - Feb 16, 2013 11:00:45 am PST #11589 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

That's just for men, right? Bi women are supposed to really be straight?

Yeah, the whole L.U.G. thang.


Steph L. - Feb 16, 2013 11:02:21 am PST #11590 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

That's just for men, right? Bi women are supposed to really be straight?

Yeah, the whole L.U.G. thang.

Or they make out with each other in bars just to titillate men.


Jessica - Feb 16, 2013 11:19:30 am PST #11591 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

That's just for men, right? Bi women are supposed to really be straight? I.e., "someone" (MEN) came up with these stories that mean everyone is actually into them.

Yeah, you do have to wonder why nobody in this scenario actually wants sex with women. Probably it's because of the cooties.


erin_obscure - Feb 16, 2013 12:16:34 pm PST #11592 of 30001
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

Huh. I read that list about Dan Savage and also listen to his podcast every wk. While he has certainly said all the quoted things, and is openly squeamish about lady bit (sheesh, he's a gay man, of course he doesn't love vaginas! Why would anyone expect him to??) he also very very frequently corrects/apologizes for certain statements that are either offensive or misconstrued. Everything I've heard from him in the last year has been very pro-bisexual and frequently exhorting bi ppl to 'come of out of the bi closet' so more people will understand that bisexuality isn't just confused gay ppl afraid to be openly gay.


Jesse - Feb 16, 2013 12:24:59 pm PST #11593 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, you do have to wonder why nobody in this scenario actually wants sex with women. Probably it's because of the cooties.

Lady-cooties + the unstoppable appeal of dick, I guess.


msbelle - Feb 16, 2013 12:37:21 pm PST #11594 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I am ignoring the mean sex labeling/dismissal/hating talk.

I did my 2 financial tasks and re-listed 6 items from previous ebay postings over the last few months. I need to take pictures and list some more things, but I kinda just want a nap.


bon bon - Feb 16, 2013 12:38:36 pm PST #11595 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

This is from yesterday, but:

oh, buffistas, where we've now known each other approximately forever.

On V-day it was six years since we got engaged, TEN YEARS since our ill-timed first date, and I knew you guys well before that.


flea - Feb 16, 2013 12:40:53 pm PST #11596 of 30001
information libertarian

I have a 9-and-a-half year old, and I knew you guys before she was conceived.