Why couldn't you be dealing drugs like normal people?

Snyder ,'Empty Places'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


javachik - Jun 08, 2012 9:46:07 am PDT #8940 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

'suela, YES. I have to turn down work, actually. It's going exceedingly well. Thanks for asking (and I hope to see you in person soon!).


-t - Jun 08, 2012 9:47:18 am PDT #8941 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I haven't been yet, java. He's only been out there sort of temporarily a year and is in the process of moving permanently right now. He's on a ranch outside of Kerrville, his in-laws' place - I think their mailing address is Kerrville but they aren't in town.


javachik - Jun 08, 2012 9:49:09 am PDT #8942 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Heh. He could be neighbors with my cousin! B lives outside of Kerrville, too.


meara - Jun 08, 2012 9:52:04 am PDT #8943 of 30001

I think there might be some in your community who don't give a crap about outside acceptance? Or they do but they don't want to change to be accepted?

Exactly. Some people are very "screw them all" (like some young radical queers I know who are like "marriage is the patriarchy! we dont' need it!") and some are like "Hey, I want acceptance and marriage and all that, but where the hell has that been the last 30 years as I dealt with AIDS and my family and church disowning me? Nowhere. But my leather/bear/drag family has been there for me, and I shouldn't have to disavow that just to get acceptance" which is so valid...but it's true that it's the Ellens and the nice couple down the street who are changing hearts. So tough.


javachik - Jun 08, 2012 9:54:45 am PDT #8944 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

Those are really good illustrations and I totally understand.


Consuela - Jun 08, 2012 9:57:13 am PDT #8945 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Speaking of gay rights (or the lack thereof), Moscow has apparently banned Pride for the next century. And no, that's not The Onion.


Tom Scola - Jun 08, 2012 11:00:15 am PDT #8946 of 30001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

What I’m NOT doing this weekend.


Kat - Jun 08, 2012 11:05:10 am PDT #8947 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Although Matt has an excellent point, that the very non-threatening image conveyed by PTA-Daddies has thrown the hard-core homophobes into a tizzy, because they know as well as we do that being unthreatening is a first step to acceptance (for some folks).

And because those PTA-Daddies actually challenge not just homophobia, but also the dominant gendered roles in society. Those hard-core homophobes are probably equally tizzied by the stay at home dad.


Jesse - Jun 08, 2012 11:17:13 am PDT #8948 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, there are a lot of straight people who aren't "standard" enough for the hard-core homophobe types. For that crowd, I literally think it's going to be waiting for them to die, really.

I have several plans this weekend! Probably movies tonight, whale watch (!!) tomorrow, sitting at a table for Alzheimer's on Sunday. I also have to get to the post office, because two of my dresses sold! So that's fun.


§ ita § - Jun 08, 2012 11:18:55 am PDT #8949 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

When I try and put myself in the head of a homophobe, I find Matt Bomer's family scarier. Because I don't know who they are. They could be anywhere, having jobs, their kids having sleepovers with my kids. If they don't *act* gay, how can I tell if I'm sharing a locker room with them?

There's nowhere to hide, because they can be everywhere. They could be having same sex lecherous thoughts about my genitals RIGHT NOW.

But that's (at least) a step more homophobic than people who "just" need to see that a gay couple looks remarkably like a het one.

However, it all started because the article stated that there is only one way to get acceptance--by being flamboyant and scandalous.

There are way more fronts on which the fight needs be fought, IMO. If straight flamboyant people can't get acceptance, what can you reasonably expect when you put anything else into the mix? Whether or not that ever works, only that will never work.

CIO said in the meeting today that her direct reports keep a pair of sneakers in their offices, because she has her 1 on 1s walking around the block--she did 5 miles of meetings yesterday.

To be inspired for a second, I took the stairs down for lunch, and even walked a wee bit further...and then had a bacon cheeseburger and fries, but my quads totally don't know that.

Man, I'd managed to acclimate my legs to multiple trips a day. I hate losing ground, but then they painted and I worked from home so much I lost it all.