These are stone killers, little man. They ain't cuddly like me.

Jayne ,'The Train Job'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


le nubian - Jun 07, 2012 4:04:18 pm PDT #8841 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

isn't it the point of ending a show the way "Angel" ended...that the true fate of the characters is unknown?

It's worth discussion of course, and there may be creator intent, but I thought that it was equally valid that they all lived, some died, all died.


brenda m - Jun 07, 2012 4:04:32 pm PDT #8842 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I always thought meds were only an issue if you were travelling internationally.


le nubian - Jun 07, 2012 4:07:34 pm PDT #8843 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

ita,

the LA weekly article you linked. are you sure that poster isn't the creator of TV tropes?


smonster - Jun 07, 2012 4:08:52 pm PDT #8844 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

And the whole entire point of the episode is that everyone dies.

No, the whole point is that they keep fighting. Always. Because if nothing you do matters, all that matters is what you do.


Jessica - Jun 07, 2012 4:08:54 pm PDT #8845 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Nobody dies onscreen, ergo those people who say everyone dies are wrong. Even without the comics I'd say that's pretty clear.


Sophia Brooks - Jun 07, 2012 4:09:52 pm PDT #8846 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Jesse, where are you watching the game shows? Are they online?


-t - Jun 07, 2012 4:10:10 pm PDT #8847 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

So...what happened at the end of The Sopranos?

Everyone dies. There's no comics, so it's obvious.

Lady or the Tiger, people arguing with ita !! It's a literary thing, not telling the ending definitively. Device. Maneuver? Thing.

Was the Pyramid always so snappy or has it been edited for syndication? In my memory it seems pretty snappy, especially compared to the bits of Who wWants to Be a Millionaire I've randomly caught that seem to be all ticking down time before that final answer is given.


§ ita § - Jun 07, 2012 4:13:15 pm PDT #8848 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I thought that it was equally valid that they all lived, some died, all died.

This is pretty much what I thought. I guess some writers might be all "BUT I PUT ALL THE CLUES RIGHT THERE" but that's not a trademark of Jossian writing. The not knowing? He's all over that shit. As far as I took away--the whole point is that they were *fighting*. No matter the odds.

And, given that Joss extended the canon and explicitly said what happened to everyone--don't you have to just say that's the read you prefer?

are you sure that poster isn't the creator of TV tropes?

I am not even going to get that twisty...


Strix - Jun 07, 2012 4:17:49 pm PDT #8849 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I travel with my pills in an organizer, and I carry the scanned up-to-date fronts of the Rx containers with me, just in case. If I am traveling and have to try to sleep in a different bed in a different city after airline travel, the TSA will have to pry my Ambien out of my cold dead hands.

I use the Target pharmacy and those bottles are huge! I take 4 scripts/day -- that's like...an extra pair of shoes room! No way.


le nubian - Jun 07, 2012 4:19:57 pm PDT #8850 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I love to Targét pharmacy though. The colored rings are great.