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'Objects In Space'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sophia Brooks - Jun 06, 2012 10:23:21 am PDT #8575 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Wow, that is awesome. I wan't paying much attention to the beginning, and while he was singing, I was like- he is a little flat. Then I realized he never had lessons or anything!

Also, Hamlet makes me want a mini-pig in the worst way! I love how he DIVES into the oatmeal.


§ ita § - Jun 06, 2012 10:29:44 am PDT #8576 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Why did the loud chewer over the cube wall from me get replaced by another loud chewer? If I can't see you eat, I should not know so many details of your consumption.


Kalshane - Jun 06, 2012 10:42:42 am PDT #8577 of 30001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I swear someone just mentioned that story/concept around/to me within the last couple weeks.

ita, I want to say there was something about it on Andrew Sullivan's blog recently. I believe it was discussion of a native American belief that you die a second time when the last person that knew you dies.


§ ita § - Jun 06, 2012 10:49:03 am PDT #8578 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think I've been to his blog. It's not ringing any bells.

Question about terms: "last stand"--does it have to be fatal? Can you win a last stand? Can you potentially stand again?


le nubian - Jun 06, 2012 10:53:44 am PDT #8579 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

"last stand" is someone's fight to death. if it isn't yours, it is your opponent's.

traditionally.

more colloquially it can refer to someone's last attempt at something, before the person decides to leave.


tommyrot - Jun 06, 2012 10:55:38 am PDT #8580 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Question about terms: "last stand"--does it have to be fatal? Can you win a last stand? Can you potentially stand again?

Generally, I'd say you die at the end of your last stand. (This is for the io9 thing, right? So "last stand" would refer to fighting.)

So I'd say you can't win at a last stand. But I suppose it's possible to be defeated in your last stand and (somehow) be unable to fight again yet still alive.


§ ita § - Jun 06, 2012 10:59:11 am PDT #8581 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

This is for the io9 thing, right?

The number of last stands commenters are suggesting that were lived through is huge. Just because you didn't read the Angel comics doesn't mean they didn't happen.

And thinking you're going to die isn't quite enough, IMO.


Kalshane - Jun 06, 2012 11:01:08 am PDT #8582 of 30001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

ita- Found what I was thinking of. It was a post referencing a discussion on Roger Ebert's blog. [link]


Gudanov - Jun 06, 2012 11:10:05 am PDT #8583 of 30001
Coding and Sleeping

Couldn't a last stand mean this is the last line of defense? If the last stand fails then it is all over, but it can succeed.


tommyrot - Jun 06, 2012 11:12:57 am PDT #8584 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Couldn't a last stand mean this is the last line of defense? If the last stand fails then it is all over, but it can succeed.

I'd say if it succeeds, it's not a last stand.

I mean, you might hear soldiers saying, "We'll make our stand here" but they wouldn't say "We'll make our last stand here." Unless everyone knows they're gonna die.