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Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

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Steph L. - May 19, 2012 7:24:05 pm PDT #5897 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I'd take martial arts training and a concealed carry permit to handle this shit myself.

Which I have considered. But have not done.

Right there with you. And I have spent many a moment considering the wisdom of getting involved in a community that is a sex thing (even when people say it isn't -- and I say that a lot -- it really is, COME ON NOW), when I don't want to be seen as a sexual object by anyone other than by boyfriend.* And people need to learn them some goddamn boundaries, I tell you what.

*(I get that I exist in the world, where people in the elevator with me, or at the gym, or in the deli, will look at me and very likely objectify me. Not that I am All That, but because it happens to pretty much everyone at some point. Anyway, I can't control those situations if I want to continue to have a job and grocery shop and whatnot. But I *chose* to get into a sex-oriented community, and in so doing, increased my exposure to the potential for creepy unwanted sexualization by about a billion percent.)


Steph L. - May 19, 2012 7:27:05 pm PDT #5898 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I wonder how many men don't realize that a lot of women interpret catcalls as a veiled threat of sexual violence.

Or not-so-veiled, like when they turn into "Hey! Why are you ignoring me I was just complimenting you, YOU BITCH!"

...uh, not the compliment you think it is, Scary McRaperson.


sarameg - May 19, 2012 7:30:03 pm PDT #5899 of 30001

The thing is, no matter what kind of community you are in, be it sex or cooking or knitting or general or those-people-who-like-lichens, the bottom line is that women by and large get objectified and no matter how empowered you are or whatever, no matter how much you could beat the shit out of the objectifiers, it still ain't right. They're the broken ones. We have to live with it. And that shit stinks.


smonster - May 19, 2012 7:32:48 pm PDT #5900 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

no matter how empowered you are or whatever, no matter how much you could beat the shit out of the objectifiers, it still ain't right. They're the broken ones. We have to live with it. And that shit stinks.

Goddamn fucking right. (I'm listening to the Proopcast, please excuse the profanity)


Steph L. - May 19, 2012 7:35:20 pm PDT #5901 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

the bottom line is that women by and large get objectified

True dat.

it still ain't right. They're the broken ones. We have to live with it. And that shit stinks.

True dat way more.


shrift - May 19, 2012 7:39:31 pm PDT #5902 of 30001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Yep. One day, some poor schmuck is going to tell me to smile at exactly the wrong moment, and my reaction is not going to be pretty, my friends.


Connie Neil - May 19, 2012 7:49:38 pm PDT #5903 of 30001
brillig

I've stopped carrying a weapon-knife--as opposed to a tool-knife--but I have the pistol, and concealed weapons permits are considered almost as essential as a drivers license in Utah. But I don't want to be one of those people (and my Sig would be very heavy in my purse). An extendable baton, now, that could be useful. Don't come at the woman who learned how to throw a blow with a club-shaped weapon in the SCA, bro, she'll break your skull open.


smonster - May 19, 2012 7:55:32 pm PDT #5904 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

I've got a neighbor down the street who thinks it's cute to sing "Sara Smile" at me every. time. I walk by. I haven't snapped yet.


Burrell - May 19, 2012 8:04:41 pm PDT #5905 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

egad Sophia, what horrid people! I don't get it.

I will be happy to throw Isaac's party for him. Assuming it's more of a beer party.

Sorry to take so long to get back to you, but this kids commandeered my computer all day and this is the first time I've gotten online. Hilarious Jesse. I gotta rule out beer for the 7 yo, but maybe for the parents, maybe. Except I think I've decided to have the party at a park, for my ease.

Kat, if your Cake Bible needs a good home, let me know. Although in my heart of heart, you are a better mom to a cake book than I am.


Typo Boy - May 19, 2012 8:17:36 pm PDT #5906 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Being a fat guy is one of the few ways to get a taste of what women go through. Just a taste, not one thousandth of the full impact. But 18 to 20 something young men, shout from a passing car "Is this he first time you've been pregnant?". Or, a group of young men on the sidewalk, with one of them commenting mockingly, "Just because he's to big for his clothes does not make him a baaad person". It is a real temptation to stumble into someone who makes a comment, knock him to the ground and apologize "So sorry, you know how clumsy fat people are". But not a good idea, so I don't.