From Sullivan:
"Obama Flip Flops, Declares War On Marriage," - Fox Nation. Update: The editors subsequently changed the headline to "Obama Flip Flops On Gay Marriage". But a reader sends a screenshot for posterity:
Oh, yeah. There was this time I was pinned down by this guy that played left tackle for varsity... Well, at least he used to before he was a vampire... Anyway, he had this really, really thick neck, and all I had was a little, little Exact-O knife ... You're not loving this story.
Buffy ,'Beneath You'
Natter 70: Hookers and Blow
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
tommyrot - May 09, 2012 11:47:43 am PDT #4317 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Burrell - May 09, 2012 11:51:14 am PDT #4318 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
I am glad that Obama spoke up for gay marriage, but I kind wish he had done it before yesterday's vote. Then again, that vote is probably what prompted him to take a public stance.
Fred Pete - May 09, 2012 11:57:51 am PDT #4319 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.
It wouldn have been nice, Burrell, but the vote was so lopsided that Obama's endorsement wouldn't have made a difference.
meara - May 09, 2012 12:01:21 pm PDT #4320 of 30001
Eh. I'm not too excited about it, because he still is all "states should decide!" which means he's not angling for federal bennies or anything. So...it changes nothing, for me.
After the Romney event where a woman was calling Obama a traitor, someone pointed out that for him to be a traitor he'd have to be a citizen ... not that THAT's going to stop any of the nonsense.
So, can we kill Michelle Bachmann now that she's a Swiss citizen? (SURELY there is some sort of "sitting legislators can't be citizens of other countries" law???)
Laura - May 09, 2012 12:04:18 pm PDT #4321 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.
Earlier would have been nice but this fits the slow and deliberate personality of Obama. At this point I am thinking better late than never. Better now than during the fall debates. I'm doubtful it would have made a difference in NC, but it is still a step in the right direction.
Calli - May 09, 2012 12:05:33 pm PDT #4322 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
Michelle Bachmann's a Swiss citizen? Huh?
Burrell - May 09, 2012 12:08:09 pm PDT #4323 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
That was my reaction, Calli.
msbelle - May 09, 2012 12:10:24 pm PDT #4324 of 30001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
I am not convinced Bachman is human.
amych - May 09, 2012 12:11:52 pm PDT #4325 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
Yeah, I really doubt it would've changed much in the NC vote. The impression I had from people I talked to while canvassing & phonebanking was that engaged voters were almost uniformly aware of the issue - casual/irregular/non-political-junkies didn't even know what it was and it came down to the fact that the asshole lege stuck the vote on the day of the primary rather than the general election, and that most of the pro faction were hearing about it for months from their churches.
I hope (and please don't disabuse me of it - I'm still way too raw) that the fact that the universal "WTF" is so much greater than I remember with other states will combine with Obama's statement to start reframing the issue as a national civil rights question, as it should've been all along.
erikaj - May 09, 2012 12:12:17 pm PDT #4326 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!
If it were (almost) any Rep. but Bachmann, I'd be worried she knew something I didn't(besides marital life with a gay man, I mean) But since it is Bachmann, she's probably cheating on her taxes.(She worked for the IRS...not hard, but she did.