This is not funny. This... this is a morality tale about the evils of sake.

Simon ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Zenkitty - May 03, 2012 10:15:30 am PDT #3655 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Corporations should not seek to profit at the expense of the good of their employees. That's just evil.


tommyrot - May 03, 2012 10:19:51 am PDT #3656 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I had a temp job at a credit card company in San Francisco. They offered to hire me permanently, but at the same rate of pay (plus benefits). I told them I wouldn't accept the offer unless they gave me a raise. They said no, so I didn't end up staying.

It was annoying because I was hired to do data entry in Excel, but by the time I left I was doing database programming. Meanwhile, my pay rate hadn't changed.


aurelia - May 03, 2012 10:21:40 am PDT #3657 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Can we ask to see the company tax returns before we decide what to pay for their services?

Sumi, I hope the thing is easily dealt with.

People with 3.5" floppy discs, don't throw them out! Many, many lighting consoles use those discs and they are harder to find. Ask your local theatre if they'll take donated discs. edit - ask if the lighting department could use the discs. People in the office probably won't know.


sumi - May 03, 2012 10:23:02 am PDT #3658 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

aurelia - excellent idea.


Consuela - May 03, 2012 10:27:57 am PDT #3659 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I told them I wouldn't accept the offer unless they gave me a raise.

Well, if it was the same rate of pay, plus benefits, you were offered a $10K raise, or more. Might not have been enough to justify staying, but it was, in fact, a raise, unless you were already getting benefits from the temp firm?


tommyrot - May 03, 2012 10:31:47 am PDT #3660 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Well, if it was the same rate of pay, plus benefits, you were offered a $10K raise, or more. Might not have been enough to justify staying, but it was, in fact, a raise, unless you were already getting benefits from the temp firm?

That's all true. In fact, I tried to change my mind and accept the offer but it was too late.

A bunch of people who had gone from temp to permanent at that company told me to hold out for higher pay, as they had and it worked. Didn't work for me for some reason.

That whole thing was weird--if I had taken the job I might still be living in SF today.


meara - May 03, 2012 10:32:07 am PDT #3661 of 30001

Well, generally they have to pay the temp firm to hire you full time...but they've also been paying a LOT more to the temp firm than the temp firm has been paying you. So if you end up getting the same...


tommyrot - May 03, 2012 10:34:12 am PDT #3662 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Part of the problem was they didn't know that I was doing more advanced work. During my temp tenure, my boss left, her boss quit and eventually I was reporting to a vice-president. I should have done a better job advocating for myself.


Burrell - May 03, 2012 11:41:44 am PDT #3663 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I am so confused. How is asking for your previous W-2 not illegal?


Calli - May 03, 2012 11:41:55 am PDT #3664 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

God, I hate self-evaluations.

Me, too. We're doing our mid-year reviews (our calendar is not like your Earth US calendar). My job's changed a fair bit, so in my evaluation notes I had to say things like, "Well, I can't say I improved my work on that area because I'm not doing that anymore. Instead I'm doing these three other things. At which I rock. But still. Can't claim an improvement in the first item, sorry."