This isn't a come-on. I'm in a very serious relationship with a landscape architect.

Oliver ,'Conviction (1)'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Typo Boy - Nov 07, 2012 3:38:19 pm PST #29822 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Don't forget the role of slavery. The electroral college was also a protection for slavery.


billytea - Nov 07, 2012 3:52:25 pm PST #29823 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Don't forget the role of slavery. The electroral college was also a protection for slavery.

That is true (and of course it was pushed as "States' rights" when the tide turned against it). However, I put most weight on the "three-fifths of a person" clause in the Constitution in protecting slavery. It worked easily with the EC, but it did so through its impact on House representation. Conversely, equal Senate representation initially favoured the northern states, which on average were smaller than the southern states.


Volans - Nov 07, 2012 3:55:42 pm PST #29824 of 30001
move out and draw fire

Zen, I fly out of Dulles all the time, and it's not super-complicated. You do have to allow a lot of time though, as the terminals are a ways from the main building. After you check in, just follow the signs.

You know who would be awesome in the job? A career diplomat who has put in years of service and earned the job.

LOLOLOLoLOLOLOL.

The political appointee positions in State go deeper and deeper every year. So even if you did this you'd have hundreds of random political appointees running around.

Kerry's made it extremely clear that he wants the job, and it will probably go to him. But you know what's even scarier? If Mitt had been elected it would've been JOHN BOLTON.


billytea - Nov 07, 2012 4:00:02 pm PST #29825 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Kerry's made it extremely clear that he wants the job, and it will probably go to him. But you know what's even scarier? If Mitt had been elected it would've been JOHN BOLTON.

I like to imagine that in a wacky misunderstanding, he instead appoints Michael Bolton. Forget the Monroe Doctrine, world, get ready for the Romney Doctrine: "Let the U.S.A. touch you... there."


Connie Neil - Nov 07, 2012 4:02:18 pm PST #29826 of 30001
brillig

hundreds of random political appointees running around.

Like the minions in Despicable Me?

Banana


Calli - Nov 07, 2012 4:12:02 pm PST #29827 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Rachel Maddow seems to be having the happiest broadcast of her life right now.


Typo Boy - Nov 07, 2012 4:12:04 pm PST #29828 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Conversely, equal Senate representation initially favoured the northern states, which on average were smaller than the southern states.

But it is also true that at the time many of the smaller Northern states were involved in the triangle trade - sugar( & molasses) rum and slaves. So it still favored slavery.

Incidentally ita !, preferential voting is not woo-woo. You take an election where we might want a run off and rank your choices so that the results of a run-off can be calculated mathematically. IF there are 3 candidates and all the voters rank them and nobody gets a majority then it is straightforward to calculate who would win a run-off. Simple fairness in any election with more than two candidates.


Typo Boy - Nov 07, 2012 4:15:59 pm PST #29829 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Incidentally one result of not having PR or some form of choice voting is that even in Congress (which is supposed to be the small d democratic house of Congress, and which currently has approximately equal population in districts) we can have cases where one party wins a majority of the popular vote and ends up winning a minority of the seats. That has happened a number of times in the past 20 years, though it is so taken for granted that apparently it passes unnoticed. I don't know if happened this time or not, but conditions were certainly ripe for it.


§ ita § - Nov 07, 2012 4:16:39 pm PST #29830 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

TB, I think you might have missed my B'cracy-induced sarcasm. I don't know how preferential voting can need explaining to anyone who posted through that (I'd figure it you don't get it, it's a choice by now)--and I have been around that long.


Typo Boy - Nov 07, 2012 4:28:59 pm PST #29831 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah I missed that you were being sarcastic or at least the target of the sarcasm.