Right, what's a little sweater sniffing between sworn enemies?

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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cashmere - Nov 07, 2012 1:24:52 pm PST #29791 of 30001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I have de-friended family over Obamageddon.


Connie Neil - Nov 07, 2012 1:28:20 pm PST #29792 of 30001
brillig

Huntsman might actually work. He's got the Ambassador to China background. Though Bill Clinton would also rock. It would be so fun to see a multi-year Bill Love Fest around the world. Though I wonder if Hilary is sick of people saying, "So will you be bringing Bill?"


le nubian - Nov 07, 2012 1:36:27 pm PST #29793 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

did you all see David Simon's post about the election?

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Glamcookie - Nov 07, 2012 1:36:40 pm PST #29794 of 30001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

That's tough, Cash. My Republican family members (and there are a shit-ton of them) have been remarkably quiet throughout the election season. They seem to know to be somewhat ashamed. Doesn't make it okay, but it's something I guess.


Sheryl - Nov 07, 2012 1:39:04 pm PST #29795 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Luckily I haven't had to deal with people melting down over the election results. either in person or on line.


billytea - Nov 07, 2012 1:48:32 pm PST #29796 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Huntsman might actually work. He's got the Ambassador to China background.

Yep, that's the mostly kidding part. (Plus, he's been appointed by Obama before.) Bush's Iraqi adventure had many costs, but I think one with potentially far-reaching effects is that it took America's foreign policy attention off China at a vital time. This relationship won't get any easier with China's recent (rather ham-fisted) assertiveness and the growing nationalist sentiment within the country. Someone who's familiar with China would be a plus. (He's also fairly well-regarded by the Chinese people.)

One thing that may help is China's leadership transition. Reading through the resumes of the most likely candidates for the Standing Committee, it seems to me that there's some small shift towards trade over security in foreign outlook (with some notable exceptions, like Zhang Dejiang and Liu Yunshan). I hope so, anyway. Just completing the transition should in theory ease the pressure to look tough.


P.M. Marc - Nov 07, 2012 1:55:54 pm PST #29797 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yeah, I think Huntsman wouldn't be a bad choice at all.

I see Berman's been mentioned as a possible. Thoughts on that?


§ ita § - Nov 07, 2012 1:58:01 pm PST #29798 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have a question, that's probably ridiculously basic--I'm trying to understand what the electoral college is meant to achieve. I've seen, for instance, it explained that it prevents big states like Texas or California from getting their way--but if everyone lives in Texas or California and only two people live in Rhode Island or wherever, why shouldn't Texas and California decide? The fact that they live in the same state is less important than the fact that it's the popular vote, surely?

Then again, I've read that I'm misunderstanding the position--Obama didn't get elected the President of the United People of America--he's the Prez of the States and that's why the college is needed to distribute the power across them, regardless of where the people are.

Is that that important about the US?


erikaj - Nov 07, 2012 2:00:22 pm PST #29799 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

For David Simon, that's giddy optimism. Scary, huh? Maybe that's why I have a crush on him...maybe I always wondered what it was like to be the cheery one.


Connie Neil - Nov 07, 2012 2:05:16 pm PST #29800 of 30001
brillig

I've always wondered why China can be so short sighted as to fish to depletion other nations seas. Where do they think the fish they eat is going to come from if they catch them all? Or are Chinese fish magical and will infinitely produce?