I caught her on a park bench, making out with a *chaos* demon! Have you ever seen a chaos demon? They're all slime and antlers.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Amy - Nov 06, 2012 9:01:07 am PST #29004 of 30001
Because books.

I don't think of that as a luxury

I think a single mom (or dad) working two jobs and going home to three kids might disagree with you.

Of course, I also think for a lot of people it's easier to vote whatever party line they've always voted, or their parents have voted, and not think too much about it. Which is just easier. Not right, but easier.

Whoops, random capitalization.


Consuela - Nov 06, 2012 9:01:59 am PST #29005 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Plei, please believe I don't mean to minimize your feelings. I'm sorry I upset you.

I don't think I'm explaining myself very well, and I'm hardly the best banner-carrier for sensible conservatives (not being one myself), so I'll bow out.


Amy - Nov 06, 2012 9:04:48 am PST #29006 of 30001
Because books.

I think this is one of the places where public education might make a difference. Knowing what happened during the Revolution is important, but actually knowing the laws of your state and your country are probably more so right now. I think some people don't realize what the laws are, or what their ramifications are (see: voter ID as a perfect example).


P.M. Marc - Nov 06, 2012 9:05:37 am PST #29007 of 30001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Plei, please believe I don't mean to minimize your feelings. I'm sorry I upset you.

I'm not so much upset as just passionate about this particular issue, though I suspect we define sensible conservative differently. I was raised, after all, by Canadian atheists.


tommyrot - Nov 06, 2012 9:08:04 am PST #29008 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I was raised, after all, by Canadian atheists.

That's awesome.

My Christian grade school taught me homosexuality was evil. It took my best friend coming out to me in college to change that.


meara - Nov 06, 2012 9:09:11 am PST #29009 of 30001

Unrelatedly, I think I'm going to have a very hard time when candidates for higher office (Senate, President, Governor) start being younger than me. Both in a "OMG why are they a Senator and I'm not?" and in a "Dude. I AM BARELY AN ADULT, how do you think you can RUN THIS COUNTRY?!" way.


Typo Boy - Nov 06, 2012 9:09:16 am PST #29010 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

never attributing to malice what can be adequately explained by ignorance.

Yeah, I always thought that dictum was at the least overstated and probably dead wrong. If someone kicks me in the balls I'm gonna attribute that to malice.


le nubian - Nov 06, 2012 9:10:16 am PST #29011 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I believe in malicious ignorance.


Consuela - Nov 06, 2012 9:10:35 am PST #29012 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

If someone kicks me in the balls I'm gonna attribute that to malice.

The circumstances in which that could be adequately explained by ignorance are going to be rare, Typo. Which is the point.


tommyrot - Nov 06, 2012 9:11:18 am PST #29013 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I believe in malicious ignorance.

I believe in ignorant maliciosity.