Well, personally, I kind of want to slay the dragon.

Angel ,'Not Fade Away'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Allyson - Nov 05, 2012 6:43:01 pm PST #28825 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I feel like that, too, Dana, but then people will open up veins and stuff for the red cross when there's a disaster. It's a strange dissonance.

Money is tight for me, but it's going to cost me like, one chinese take-out dinner a year to pay for better schools. WTF? I'll eat a bowl of cereal for better schools. And I can say that for people, and they'll start going mealy mouthed about how the teacher unions are at fault and so DONT TOUCH MY LO MEIN. But then that same person will start going nuts to ship the canned goods off to Staten Island. I scratch my head and wonder.


Kat - Nov 05, 2012 6:44:43 pm PST #28826 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Money is tight for me, but it's going to cost me like, one chinese take-out dinner a year to pay for better schools. WTF? I'll eat a bowl of cereal for better schools

But also, all the parents who are voting against it... do they not realize that an extra 15 furlough days means your kid will get out in April and you'll be responsible for child care for that kid? After all for some parents school is just free child care.


Steph L. - Nov 05, 2012 6:45:53 pm PST #28827 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

sit alone at home trying to play Halo but nobody wants to play with them.

That's a campaign tactic that's sorely underused: "Vote Yes on Issue 783, or play Skyrim alone forever!"


Cass - Nov 05, 2012 6:47:02 pm PST #28828 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I also don't really want to talk about this, but I'm not at peace

Oh, I am really not at peace about decisions that some of my family makes. My stepmom voted for Prop 8. I've talked myself sick since and she says she'd vote differently now but she's probably voting for Romney. She'll say she loves me but she (edit:legislatively) basically hates my life and who I might want to marry.

As really untraditional as her life has been, she'll vote for "traditional" and screw my choices up until we sit and talk for hours after the fact. Then she'll say that she had no idea it was a human rights issue and she just wanted the concept of a traditional marriage.

She was pregnant unmarried at 16 and then pregnant again at 22 with a different father. Never married to either. I am not slagging her. I think she's usually an amazing person. Her vote just so fails to deal with her life or mine.

Sort of aspirational voting.

Oh, absolutely. Vote for the tax bracket you hope to be in. I am boggled that there are people who don't even consider that this is happening.


DavidS - Nov 05, 2012 6:50:27 pm PST #28829 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

That's a campaign tactic that's sorely underused: "Vote Yes on Issue 783, or play Skyrim alone forever!"

I'd have a little more leverage for my shame and scorn platform if I actually got online and played video games. So I could scorn people.


Zenkitty - Nov 05, 2012 6:51:45 pm PST #28830 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Colbert just said that the best way to mobilize voters is shame and guilt, so you may be onto something, Hec.


Liese S. - Nov 05, 2012 6:53:51 pm PST #28831 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Okay, I have to stop working now so I can get up at 5:30 tomorrow to vote. But if it goes like I think it's going to, I'm then going to come home and cook sausage and eggs for breakfast because I think we'll have plenty of time before actual work.


Steph L. - Nov 05, 2012 6:55:36 pm PST #28832 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Colbert just said that the best way to mobilize voters is shame and guilt

A gluten-free donut would work for me.

Man, I gotta go to bed so I can get up early and vote and have the jitters all day and refresh 538 about a billion times and come home and drive Tim insane until it's called.

But I can't fall asleep because I have to get up early and vote and then have the jitters all day and refresh 538 about a billion times and come home and drive Tim insane until it's called.

t edit I love the "I have to go to bed so I can get up early and vote" x-post!


Consuela - Nov 05, 2012 6:56:06 pm PST #28833 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I think people sometimes vote for what they want their interest to be. Sort of aspirational voting.

Bingo.

Also, when times are bad, people like to have someone to blame. (The GOP is really really good at that--and Obama gives them someone to blame whom they would have blamed anyway. It's not just "Blame the Harvard elitists for screwing up the economy, and the immigrants for stealing your jobs, and the lazy minorities for being on welfare." In Obama, they can point to someone who represents to them all three of those categories! He's a trifecta of bigotry-magnetism.)

Blaming someone is so much easier than realizing that the situation is complicated and everyone is going to have to sacrifice for a while until things get better. That's like telling my mother she has to walk to get her legs stronger. She just wants a pill, man.


Allyson - Nov 05, 2012 6:56:50 pm PST #28834 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

My dad says global warming isn't a problem because it's happened before.

Group hug?