Yes, there is. There's a hurry, Xander. I'm dying...I may have as few as fifty years left.

Anya ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kat - Nov 05, 2012 6:30:57 pm PST #28811 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I'm often surprised with how people plan on voting. We have a teacher at my school who is planning against voting against Prop 30, which will raise taxes, but will also mean that we don't' have to take an additional 15 furlough days on top of the 10 we are currently taking. Also, at my school, we will lose 2-3 teachers if it doesn't pass.

But this teacher said, "I just don't want to pay higher taxes." Um. Really? Because your 15 extra days without pay will actually cost way more than a tax increase.

I don't get voting against your self-interest.


Steph L. - Nov 05, 2012 6:31:38 pm PST #28812 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I've been shocked to find a lot of parents and people in the neighborhood who I would have definitely pegged as Democrats put Romney signs on their lawns. They all have really nice houses, for the record.

I don't get voting against your self-interest.

I have at least 3 gay friends who are loud and proud pro-Romney voters. That spun my head hard.


Dana - Nov 05, 2012 6:32:46 pm PST #28813 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I try not to know what my neighbors and coworkers think. It's usually depressing.


Kat - Nov 05, 2012 6:33:21 pm PST #28814 of 30001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I have at least 3 gay friends who are loud and proud pro-Romney voters

I have at least one. He said, "I'd rather have a boyfriend in a Beemer than a husband in a Hyundai." Clever line. Stupid sentiment. But his uncle was the Shah of Iran so perhaps he has other things at play?


Stephanie - Nov 05, 2012 6:33:41 pm PST #28815 of 30001
Trust my rage

I think people sometimes vote for what they want their interest to be. Sort of aspirational voting.

Damn, my finger hurts.


Liese S. - Nov 05, 2012 6:33:45 pm PST #28816 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I do a lot of teaching about failure and how awesome it is. I often say, "That's a great error!" and explain why and I also reward good corrections. I sometimes am pretty careful about how I phrase a correction, depending on the kid and the relationship, but I will also totally belt out a "WRONG!" from time to time when warranted and when the relationship is a teasing one. I will fake mock outrage at a particularly egregious error if I know the student is just not paying attention and can do better, and they grin at me and do better. We have a big session with all our new students about learning to make mistakes big. We talk all the time about working on what's hard for us, not what's easy. We laugh a lot about mistakes.

WTF, gifted teacher, your students will never get to any of this awesomeness!


DavidS - Nov 05, 2012 6:34:19 pm PST #28817 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I don't get voting against your self-interest.

The last several election cycles have made me very cynical about human intelligence.

I didn't used to think that lots and lots of people were total fucking idiots. But now I do.


Liese S. - Nov 05, 2012 6:36:18 pm PST #28818 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yes, there are lots of idiots, and there are also lots of people with different priorities who are making different choices based on the best information they have.


Steph L. - Nov 05, 2012 6:37:05 pm PST #28819 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

My immediate department at work is a bunch of yellow-dog democrats, and it does my heart good.

My extended family, OTOH, is not having Thanksgiving together for the first year since I can remember (and I'm 41), and it's because of the election. No matter who wins, 3/4 of the family will be giant jackholes either gloating or whining and spewing racist garbage. One aunt thinks Sarah Palin would make an excellent POTUS (no, seriously), and the other aunt told my mom, in so many words, that she will burn in hell because she thinks gay people should be allowed to marry.

I just want this fucking election to be over.


Dana - Nov 05, 2012 6:37:56 pm PST #28820 of 30001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I'm really cynical too. I feel like so much of what people think is just "me me me" and "mine mine mine." You don't get my money. You don't get the same rights I have. You don't get anything I have, because I deserve it and you don't.