Spike: Lots of fuss over one girl. Other things to do around here--important things. Angel: You know that whoosh thing you do when you're suddenly not there anymore? I love that.

'Unleashed'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Oct 23, 2012 2:56:50 pm PDT #26847 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

ION, why is it that sometimes I get Lush scents from next door wafting in my window, and sometimes it's the dumpster??? Needless to say, right now it's the dumpster.


§ ita § - Oct 23, 2012 3:04:25 pm PDT #26848 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Does anyone have access to the full text of this [link] ? I am so curious about the conclusion.

And I'm also curious about the terms "published" and "peer reviewed" like they're the ne plus ultra of credibility, and a peer has never been wrong. I see it used reasonably often to both shut down discussion and to...well, shut down discussion.


Typo Boy - Oct 23, 2012 3:16:04 pm PDT #26849 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Peer review is a filter. If a scientific theory cannot pass peer review and get into a peer reviewed publication it probably lacks adequate support. Note that this applies to scientific theories only. Lots of stuff, including technical stuff that is NOT a scientific theory will never be in a peer reviewed pubication and has no reason why that should affect creditiblity. Nate Silver will never be peer reviewed but is a credible source. He used highly technical means and is a professional, but is not inventing new science.

However the reverse is not true. Being published in a peer reviewed discussion does not mean you are right, or even that what you are saying is not garbage. All it means is that you provided a certain minimal level of evidence. Again a scientific paper that cannot be pubished in a peer reviewed publication is almost certainly flawed. Being pubished in a peer reviewed publication is no guarantee it is not garbage - it just means it passed certain tests. It is not a certain kind of garbage, but may be more sophisticated garbage. Basically peer review is supposed to be a guarantee of being worth discussion. Sometimes stuff slips through that should not, but most it is worth discussion. But peer review is not ehe same as settled.


Typo Boy - Oct 23, 2012 3:17:23 pm PDT #26850 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

If there is extensive peer reviewed literature on a subject and all of it or almost all agrees on something, odds are that is settled. Though there is always the possibility something new will turn up that overturns it.


§ ita § - Oct 23, 2012 3:38:24 pm PDT #26851 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So many conclusions are being drawn off that abstract (I feel confident the IO9 author hasn't read the full thing, but the sad thing is, they handed it to IO9's resident evo psych click baiter, so off the bat I assume that peer review means diddly in its defence. Given that he messes up the difference between numbers and percentages in his power statement "It's pretty revealing that..." and doesn't use the "adequately powered" stats (what does that even mean), well, I'm inclined to pre-judge to save time.

Family is hunkered down on hurricane watch. Yay, weather!


JZ - Oct 23, 2012 3:49:47 pm PDT #26852 of 30001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Does anyone have access to the full text of this [link] ? I am so curious about the conclusion.

Not now, but I'm 99% certain I could get it for you tomorrow morning from my work computer (the uni has full-text access to pretty much everything medical or science-y, plus an utterly random assortment of unlikely other stuff).


DebetEsse - Oct 23, 2012 3:57:42 pm PDT #26853 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I am at the University library, and I've got the pdf of the fulltext. You want it?


§ ita § - Oct 23, 2012 4:33:23 pm PDT #26854 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'd love it, Debet! Profile address?


§ ita § - Oct 23, 2012 4:33:34 pm PDT #26855 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

(You guys rock!)


SuziQ - Oct 23, 2012 4:33:38 pm PDT #26856 of 30001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

My dad just shocked the absolute crap out of me by sending me the following e-mail...

Go Giants!

How are your As doing?

I think it is kinda obvious I didn't get my love of baseball from him and he doesn't have a great grasp of how the playoffs work. But still. He realized something big happened last night in his city and connected it to one of my passions. Go Dad. And in my response I asked if he wanted to get me World Series tix and airfare. Long shot, but hey...why not ask.