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le nubian - Sep 17, 2012 8:04:56 pm PDT #22491 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Apparently Mother Jones has more parts of that video. There supposedly is another bombshell tomorrow.

I'm not sure I can take it.

The pundits who I saw on tv today think that this video is damaging to Romney because it reinforces his negatives: more people already don't like him and this emphasizes why we don't like him.

The only thing that surprised me with the video is that the number 47% seemed kind of low. I mean, it is pretty clear to me that there are no more than 100 people in the US he gives 2 shits about and 80 of them he's related to. He can't stand the rest of us.

I also am amused because I think it is possible he hasn't paid income taxes recently and so I'm not sure what it means for him to consider those who don't pay income taxes in such low esteem.


le nubian - Sep 17, 2012 8:19:54 pm PDT #22492 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Thurston Howell Romney.

[link]

He's lost David Brooks.


Burrell - Sep 17, 2012 8:19:56 pm PDT #22493 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Ugh ita, what a friggin' bummer of an ending to what sounded like a great trip. I'll be around tomorrow if I can help out although I am on kid duty in the afternoon. But call if you need anything.


Typo Boy - Sep 17, 2012 8:39:31 pm PDT #22494 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah I think it will hurt him. One of Billytea's points was something I was thinking about:

Apparently people simply don't believe Romney and the Republicans actually mean it when they go off the deep end.

Well more people don't believe they have said the things they are quoted as saying. Here it is on tape and will be played in commercials and go viral on the internet. A lot of people who don't pay attention to politics will hear of it. Also (again as Billytea said) will mobilize Obama's base. Also might swing people who are NOT swing voters. Someone who lives on Social Security and does not pay income taxes might suddenly realize Rommney's contempt includes them.


Allyson - Sep 17, 2012 8:54:35 pm PDT #22495 of 30001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Someone who lives on Social Security and does not pay income taxes might suddenly realize Rommney's contempt includes them.

No. "Keep your guvmint hands off my Medicare." It's ingrained.


Typo Boy - Sep 17, 2012 9:00:10 pm PDT #22496 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

No. "Keep your guvmint hands off my Medicare." It's ingrained.

That's the base. Not every Romney supporter is base. I know one woman who is genuinely anti-racist, but very right-wing economically. She is currently a Romney supporter. I'll be very curious to see if this changes her mind. If it does that will be a straw in the wind.


aurelia - Sep 17, 2012 9:02:33 pm PDT #22497 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Oh, ita. I hope sleep helps and that everything goes smoothly for you tomorrow.


Cass - Sep 17, 2012 9:11:29 pm PDT #22498 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I'm not undecided, and I didn't, actually, know that he really believed that almost half the country, simply by dint of voting for Obama, were parasitic leeches. I knew his political/economic views were wildly opposed to Obama's, and destructive and scary from where I stand, but that's politics and policies. I didn't actually think he was so contemptuous of half of the people he wants to govern.

That he thought it of a lot of people? No. That he thought it of 47% of the population, yeah, I'm shocked.

I didn't think he was quite so stupid as to say it so openly.

And this.

I am surprised.

Which implies that either the effort is so massive the gain is out of your reach, or rather, it's actually pretty damned good here, so never mind until that theoretical election where my peeps lose. And even then...most people would rather stay and try fix it.

Objectively, the US has life going pretty well (we don't die of starvation, get sent to camps, murdered, raped or have no options) for many compared to a lot of places. And the places that seem "better" aren't exactly inviting everyone else in. Some really terrible things happen here and wanting to make them better is something I see as a good thing.

I suspect that it's pretty good here until "the election" that makes people reflexively want to abandon ship but even still, it's better than most of the places you could easily get into. We're the safety college. Some of it sucks, but they won't kick you out so you stay.

Well more people don't believe they have said the things they are quoted as saying. Here it is on tape and will be played in commercials and go viral on the internet.

Oh, it's misinterpreted and taken out of context. I am believing more and more that the truth isn't exactly a defense any longer.

No. "Keep your guvmint hands off my Medicare." It's ingrained.

This is not the entitlement you are looking for...

I feel like people just refuse to look at reality. They probably think the same of me.


billytea - Sep 18, 2012 3:37:11 am PDT #22499 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Ah, here it is. The Republican Party during Obama's Presidency: [link]


Jessica - Sep 18, 2012 3:38:43 am PDT #22500 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The difference is that Reagan's dog whistle of welfare queens was racist. It's easy to turn this into an attack on the working class red staters and hold up a mirror to them. "Yo, Mitt Monocle McTaxcheater is talking about YOU."

I think the notion that there are those people on food stamps (because they're lazy), which is totally different from my family being on food stamps (because Obama is bad for the economy), is too ingrained for this to have much traction.

It's the same line of thinking that allows pro-life women to justify their own abortions - yes, I'm having this procedure done, but I'm not like those sluts who want to let everyone do it.