Take jobs as they come -- and we'll never be under the heel of nobody ever again. No matter how long the arm of the Alliance might get, we'll just get ourselves a little further.

Mal ,'Out Of Gas'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


aurelia - Sep 01, 2012 5:03:11 pm PDT #20639 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

It is possible.

It also sounds like a conversation in which it would be very easy to phrase things poorly.


Typo Boy - Sep 01, 2012 5:04:34 pm PDT #20640 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Be gentle with me, but would a reasonable possible subtext of "I don't see race when I look at you" be "You're not like the other black people"?

Yea.


Jesse - Sep 01, 2012 5:10:59 pm PDT #20641 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh yeah, totally.


Pix - Sep 01, 2012 5:12:16 pm PDT #20642 of 30001
The status is NOT quo.

It could also be an insecure and rather clueless person who is trying desperately to prove s/he isn't racist. People can be dumb.


Typo Boy - Sep 01, 2012 5:14:56 pm PDT #20643 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Anyone can say something they don't mean. But it remains the most reasonable interpretation pf the word. Other interpretations would depend upon context, and assume the person did not mean what they said.


§ ita § - Sep 01, 2012 5:16:01 pm PDT #20644 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It also sounds like a conversation in which it would be very easy to phrase things poorly

They incident I'm thinking about wasn't so much a conversation as something that was offered up to me.

I was irritated by it the last time someone said that to me, but the possibly fucking obvious subtext didn't occur to me until fairly recently. Just that he was being one of those irritating post-racial it's-best-we-ignore-things kind of people.

Not caring what my race is is so different from not seeing it. Gulf.


sumi - Sep 01, 2012 5:16:34 pm PDT #20645 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Theo, I'm so sorry for your loss but it sounds like she had a good death and I am glad for that. I know, at least, that it is comforting for me to know that my mother died peacefully in her sleep and I hope that the same is true for you and your family.


aurelia - Sep 01, 2012 5:19:35 pm PDT #20646 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

They incident I'm thinking about wasn't so much a conversation as something that was offered up to me.

Well that just seems dumb.


§ ita § - Sep 01, 2012 5:31:09 pm PDT #20647 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, if you're volunteering that to a black person with no clear segue...it just seemed like the sort of thing I was best trying to ignore. I'm not going to fall out with someone over it, but it does start to stack up.


Pix - Sep 01, 2012 5:33:50 pm PDT #20648 of 30001
The status is NOT quo.

Hm. Yeah, that seems suspect.