You can't open the book of my life and jump in the middle. Like woman, I'm a mystery.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Connie Neil - Aug 31, 2012 10:56:58 am PDT #20494 of 30001
brillig

Obama is six months younger than me. It was a kick to the head to be older than the President.


erikaj - Aug 31, 2012 11:07:44 am PDT #20495 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

Some people think that in Buchanan we had a gay POTUS. Of course, he wasn't, you know, out-and-proud. I've read historical gay spec about Lincoln and Speed too...I don't know how accurate the sources are.


amych - Aug 31, 2012 11:09:23 am PDT #20496 of 30001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I have to say, simply the fact he went to my college the same time as me is enough to make me not vote for him.

This makes perfect sense to me, as I have exactly the same reaction to the douchebag Bobby Jindal.


Hil R. - Aug 31, 2012 11:11:07 am PDT #20497 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Some people think that in Buchanan we had a gay POTUS. Of course, he wasn't, you know, out-and-proud. I've read historical gay spec about Lincoln and Speed too...I don't know how accurate the sources are.

From what I've read, there's much better evidence that Buchanan had a homosexual relationship than that Lincoln did, but homosexuality wasn't really thought of as an identity then, so calling him gay is kind of iffy.


Connie Neil - Aug 31, 2012 11:16:33 am PDT #20498 of 30001
brillig

I'm a polictially naive. Is it a step forward to have homosexuality be an identity rather than a facet of an individual? Or is that a necessary step towards it being truly an accepted facet of an individual? When I was diagnosed with diabetes, I resented the hell out of being identified as "diabetic" instead of "someone with diabethes".


erikaj - Aug 31, 2012 11:17:18 am PDT #20499 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

That's true, they didn't think about it the same.


§ ita § - Aug 31, 2012 11:21:31 am PDT #20500 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is there such a thing as diabetes culture? I just read an article by my favourite nemesis, Brian Moylan, (no, he doesn't know I exist) that not just identified gay culture as existing (well hello!) but seemed to imply it was some sort of mandatory.


Consuela - Aug 31, 2012 11:23:01 am PDT #20501 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Thanks, folks. I guess we'll see what's going to happen. There will, in any event, be a lot of creative storytelling to get my mother there.


Typo Boy - Aug 31, 2012 11:25:48 am PDT #20502 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Given the number of Presidents we have had, odds are pretty good we have had had at least one President who engaged in same sex romance.


Theodosia - Aug 31, 2012 11:35:51 am PDT #20503 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Consuela, my fingers are very much crossed for you and your parents.