Mercy is the mark of a great man. Guess I'm just a good man. Well, I'm all right.

Mal ,'Shindig'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Aug 31, 2012 5:57:57 am PDT #20395 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Or, they could win this election by being not-sane.

Yeah, the downside to not-sane political parties.


Calli - Aug 31, 2012 6:05:49 am PDT #20396 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

According to Five Thirty Eight, Romney has a 1% chance of winning Massachusetts, a 5% chance of winning New Jersey, and a 9% chance of winning Michigan

Two out of those three tell me that states that know Romney want him to stay the hell away from political office. Which bolsters my original opinion. Heck, Dubya took Texas both times, and they knew exactly what they were sending to DC. Massachusetts and Michigan seem to be making crosses with their fingers and holding them frantically up in front of the very idea of a Romney presidency.


Zenkitty - Aug 31, 2012 6:06:26 am PDT #20397 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

“This is the last time that any party will try to win an election with just the white vote.”

This makes me think about something I noticed at the RNC. (I know, I'll shut up eventually.) Every time a non-white speaker talked about how in America you can become anything you want to be, the crowd went wild with cheers, in disturbing contrast to the near-silence when the same speakers spoke of what it was like to be a disadvantaged non-white young person living in America. When Rubio quoted his father in Spanish the crowd was palpably uncomfortable, and Rubio looked briefly shaken by the lack of positive response to his story of his father's hardships both in Cuba and in America. It seems clear to me that the average RNC-going Romney/Ryan Repub only embraces non-whites when they have become rich and powerful. The lack of diversity in the RNC crowd was painfully obvious.

Also? As Romney was walking through the crowd, shaking hands and hugging, someone near a microphone yelled NONONO DON'T TOUCH ME. I wish I knew who it was, but I couldn't tell!

And if Romney has only a 1% chance of winning the state where he instituted a universal health-care plan? Yikes. What else did he do as Mass. governor?


billytea - Aug 31, 2012 6:11:19 am PDT #20398 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

You'd really think their descent into foaming-at-the-mouth lunacy (I believe they call it "firing up the base") should have cost them more at the polls. The good news, such as it is, for American politics comes from the renowned (for when one nowning just isn't enough), Lindsey Graham; who noted that they're not generating enough "angry white guys". Demographics are what will force them to start moderating their positions; I think it's at a tipping point alredy, and my prediction is that it'll kick in properly once America gets out of this economic hole (and it will get out of this economic hole; financial crises are nothing new, after all).


brenda m - Aug 31, 2012 6:22:35 am PDT #20399 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Sullivan says that the Republicans just need to be out of power long enough and they'll be forced to be sane in order to win elections again.

Ten years ago, even five, I'd have bought that. I don't it reflects today's reality, where doubling down on the crazy seems to be paying off as often as not.


Jessica - Aug 31, 2012 6:24:24 am PDT #20400 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

It seems clear to me that the average RNC-going Romney/Ryan Repub only embraces non-whites when they have become rich and powerful.

The predominant narrative with the GOP is that we fixed racism in the 60s and we fixed sexism in the 70s and homophobia isn't a real problem because gay people shouldn't exist anyway, therefore anyone who is still on food stamps is just lazy because HERE LOOK AT THIS RICH REPUBLICAN BLACK PERSON.


tommyrot - Aug 31, 2012 6:29:34 am PDT #20401 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Ten years ago, even five, I'd have bought that. I don't it reflects today's reality, where doubling down on the crazy seems to be paying off as often as not.

Yeah, that seems to be happening. Which is why it'd be great if Obama gets re-elected.

But it would probably still take 8 or 12 years of the Republicans not having the presidency to make them sane again.


Laura - Aug 31, 2012 6:31:00 am PDT #20402 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

In Laura Land Obama wins re-election by a comfortable margin, the economy rebounds in the next few years, we get out of the ongoing wars, and Dems in by a landslide in 2016 taking control of both houses so real legislative changes can take place. A few SCOTUS replacements during those years = bonus. Hey, no one ever accused me of being a pessimist.

Worried about Kat and hope to hear she gets some much needed relief soon.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 31, 2012 6:31:31 am PDT #20403 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

What else did he do as Mass. governor?

Started running for President with two years left in his term.


Jesse - Aug 31, 2012 6:34:07 am PDT #20404 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

therefore anyone who is still on food stamps is just lazy because HERE LOOK AT THIS RICH REPUBLICAN BLACK PERSON.

And don't forget, Mitt Romney's father came here from Mexico! And he did OK.