Wow, you've really mastered the power of positive giving-up.

Cordelia ,'End of Days'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Liese S. - Aug 25, 2012 11:44:20 am PDT #19440 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Aww. And yeah, man, I can do that.


Jesse - Aug 25, 2012 11:45:41 am PDT #19441 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

That's great.


Liese S. - Aug 25, 2012 11:58:20 am PDT #19442 of 30001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I got a bunch of stuff done today, but nobody had any eggs. Not the kitchen lady, not the farmers market.


Hil R. - Aug 25, 2012 12:00:56 pm PDT #19443 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I slept all day. Like, woke up long enough to eat breakfast, then fell back asleep. Woke up long enough to eat lunch, fell back asleep. Woke up again at 4 PM and realized that I hadn't done any of the stuff I needed to do today.


§ ita § - Aug 25, 2012 12:06:34 pm PDT #19444 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have nothing I need to do today. I'd love to sleep.

I'm about to run out of Rooibos Tropica from Teavana. I like Rooibos in general, and I find this blend to be quite delish with most baked goods. It's my backup tea to the dragon jasmine phoenix pearls (apparently they blend well too). Is anyone savvy enough about Adagio or Upton or any other good teac ompany blends to recommend something similar, or should I go back to the the extortioners of tea for my re-up hit?


sumi - Aug 25, 2012 12:22:55 pm PDT #19445 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Hello strangers!

It's taken me forever to catch up in natter.

So happy that msbelle found a nanny.

Just watched the King's Bishop. Anyone else see it?

The horse that won just ran and ROMPED in a stakes race 3 days ago. Wow.

Also, NYT tells me that Neil Armstrong has died. Sad. But he was 82.

Also: went on a yarn crawl this morning: I touched vicuna fiber! And got to try a "pocket wheel". It was fun.


flea - Aug 25, 2012 12:39:25 pm PDT #19446 of 30001
information libertarian

Neil Armstrong used to teach aerospace engineering at UC, actually.


§ ita § - Aug 25, 2012 12:55:38 pm PDT #19447 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm looking for some non-privileged perspective on this ad. I'm seeing discussion that it's transphobic, but the premise seems to be that appearing to be a gender that you're not, and revealing your gender after the mislead is endorsing trans panic and therefore the murder of trans women.

Here's the first discussion of it that I saw:

The problem is that it still relies on the same old transphobic (and transmisogynistic) tropes, and this is a cis man that is doing an advert that involves a bigoted idea that ends up killing trans women (especially trans women of color), that trans women are tricking people over their gender, that their penis makes them male, as shown by the shock reveal at the end and a company owned probably mostly by cis men creating this advert to profit from that idea. In the end its just an insulting OMG that person you thought was female is a he advert, with high production values and some glitz but still transphobic at its heart.

Given that the ad's tagline is "Let's turn our butts to conventional knowledge" isn't there an "don't rely on first impressions or traditional standards" interpretation that we can take away from this that is progressive and not detrimental?

Is my general chafing at the gender binary seen as cis privilege and transphobic or counter to trans* equality?


§ ita § - Aug 25, 2012 1:52:37 pm PDT #19448 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

For reasons I don't totally understand I actually paged all the way through this slideshow of teacher sex scandals: [link] . They're all women, all fairly attractive, and most of them are pretty lightly and obscurely sentenced. I would imagine that if this were 20-35 year old men sleeping with 13-17 year old girls (or boys, probably) and sending them naked pictures of themselves, they'd have been locked away for longer. Are male teachers not doing this, or do people not care?


ChiKat - Aug 25, 2012 1:56:14 pm PDT #19449 of 30001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

A teacher in my former district took a plea of 12 years this past February. He was abusing 15-17 aged girls.