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Sophia Brooks - Aug 07, 2012 4:37:48 am PDT #17257 of 30001
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I may have only posted this in Bitches, but he quit the brewery in May due to his extreme alcoholism, for which he ended up in the hospital for a week to detox.

How is he doing? (If this isn't too nosy). Has he found other work (he is a cook, right?)


sumi - Aug 07, 2012 4:40:12 am PDT #17258 of 30001
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How is whether or not McEnroe would yell even a question?

"Watching" dressage by following the chat at the Chronicle.

I wish I could see it.


Jessica - Aug 07, 2012 4:42:02 am PDT #17259 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Also, I just like saying Bjorn Borg

Well that's just common sense.

Tep, sorry to hear about your brother, but good on him for getting out of an enabling environment.

There's a chance my baby brother and/or his girlfriend will be popping up here today. They are both awesome and nerdy so hopefully they'll register and start posting. (And when I say "baby" I mean "grown-up and a foot taller than me." But you can't expect me to think of him that way.)


Strix - Aug 07, 2012 4:46:18 am PDT #17260 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I like competency in stuff, and I am not a super-physical person, so I can appreciate sports, though it's rare I will watch it. I grew up with the TV on college and pro football all season, so I understand competetive sports; I just don't get into them.

I find gymnastics, swimming, diving and figure skating the most compelling. I will happily watch many individual sports for at least fifteen minutes; I mean, wow, that's a lot of work! Go you!

But team sports or going to a game mostly leaves me eh. It's like calculus; I understand and appreciate it, theoretically, but to do? NO.

Re: hair. I saw Gabby's performances but not the news-hairmageddon, but I am not surprised. I had a grad research assistantship in the mid 90's for Dr. Noliwe Rooks [link] while she was at UMKC, and among other things, I pulled a bunch of research for her book on AA hair culture. It was like, hi, white girl, open yer eyes!

And that was really useful for when I worked with a lot of AA women in AmeriCorps and then as a teacher, and I would be a Becky that, well, knew what a Becky was, and mostly GOT that Hair Was An Issue. No, Really.

I let one of my students put my hair in rows and tiny puffs during a lock-in, and it was the first time a lot of the girls had had white hair to play with, and it was a really good topic starter for conversations on race. And a real empathy-builder; it took like, 2.5 hours and my hair is dead straight and fine. And then taking it out of all those teeny rubber bands two days later...OW OW OW OW OW.


sumi - Aug 07, 2012 4:51:18 am PDT #17261 of 30001
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I have to say that between FNL and being around my friend Sandy's dad and nephew while watching football gave me a better understanding that for those who know what they're seeing it's alot about strategy etc like chess played with giants.


Steph L. - Aug 07, 2012 5:10:54 am PDT #17262 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

How is he doing? (If this isn't too nosy).

He's doing pretty well. He isn't going to AA or any other rehab-y thing, and he hasn't found a therapist (which he had initially talked about doing even before all the shit hit the fan and he went to the hospital [we had talked one night about being our parents' children and therefore IMMENSELY fucked up, and I told him that therapy helped me to deal with my crazy, and it could help him, too, if that's what he wanted]). But he's doing well, and at this point (which is still early days; it's really only been a little under 3 months) he's adamant about not drinking, because he associates it with being physically ill, as well as the stress it apparently put on his marriage.

I know it's easy to start out with the best of intentions, and just as easy to start drinking again; my entire family is full of alcoholics. (I don't like my odds.) But there's a fine line for me as his sister between constantly bugging him about going to therapy, is he still clean, how does he feel, etc., etc. versus my genuine concern and wanting to know that he's okay. Plus I *know* my parents are bugging him too much, so I don't want to add to it.

But for right now, he seems good. At the age of (almost) 36, for the first time in his LIFE, his hair is curly. When I remarked on it the other night, he said, "Yeah, it's amazing what happens when you destroy your insides!" He has a good sense of humor about it, which is good, but he also knows what he almost lost (the doctor in the hospital said he was about 1 year away from developing cirrhosis [yeah, at the age of 35, and don't think that didn't freak my shit out HARD]).

Has he found other work (he is a cook, right?)

He is currently cooking lunch at a restaurant in Montpelier, but it's not really what he wants to do in the long term. He's actually not sure what's next, but says this is a decent job while he figures it out.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 07, 2012 5:28:19 am PDT #17263 of 30001
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That is good to hear about your brother. I completely understand not wanting to do AA, although I have to tell you that for my BFF's husband, it provides a great social outlet with a bunch of people who don't drink more than something that seems "preachy", if that is what your brother is afraid of. (Your brother might not be in the same position BFF's husband is- an extremely extroverted, social person, married to an introverted geeky person with an introverted geeky family, who has moved away from his home and the friends he grew up with. So this really helped him meet people.)


§ ita § - Aug 07, 2012 5:32:35 am PDT #17264 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sport is a subset of competency porn, that's all. I figure most people get some kind of that, don't they?

GOOD GOD, TiVo. WHY CAN'T YOU EVER GET THE WHOLE TEEN WOLF EPISODE???


sumi - Aug 07, 2012 5:36:14 am PDT #17265 of 30001
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OMG, ita ! - my TIVO DOES THE SAME THING.


Jessica - Aug 07, 2012 5:37:44 am PDT #17266 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

or my BFF's husband, it provides a great social outlet with a bunch of people who don't drink more than something that seems "preachy", if that is what your brother is afraid of

I know a lot of people who are turned off by the "higher power"stuff, but what that means varies HUGELY by locality. Some meetings are All God All The Time and some just assume that by "higher power" you mean the Flying Spaghetti Monster and that's fine.