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Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Jul 19, 2012 4:37:07 am PDT #14608 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Jessica, what role is that? I got caught up in Hiro Protagonist casting, because a guy named Hiro is clearly Japanese, and why am I being so picky about stuff, and this was just supposed to be a game, and if you have to know things or do research (how can people even type that with a straight face in an age of google and wikipedia--poor babies, with the trips uphill to the libraries...) and most women you're going to encounter named Natasha are Russian.

Jesus, get out of my sci fi forum, will you? There should be criteria for entry, if we can't have them for existence.


Jesse - Jul 19, 2012 4:45:02 am PDT #14609 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yo, is it racist to keep suggesting white actors for a fictional character with an obviously Chinese name on the basis that it's sci-fi and "in the future, maybe people with that last name won't even look Asian anymore"?

I will note that the author of Snow Flower and the Secret Fan is Lisa See, and See is her Chinese great-great-whatever-grandfather's name, but all of the rest of her ancestors have apparently been white, because she just looks white.

NOT THAT THOSE PEOPLE ARE RIGHT IN ANY WAY. Just that names don't mean much, I don't think.

Dropped my cat at the vet, told my boss about getting yelled at last night, am pretty much done with today already.


Jessica - Jul 19, 2012 4:48:41 am PDT #14610 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Jessica, what role is that?

Julie Mao from Leviathan Wakes. Conversation is happening in a Goodreads "What would you cast in the movie" thread, and people are falling over themselves to avoid suggesting actual Chinese actresses. (And no, dude, saying that lastname Mao could look "white or any other ethnicity" is not good enough. Not if all your "any other ethnicity" actor picks ARE WHITE.)


Amy - Jul 19, 2012 4:51:47 am PDT #14611 of 30001
Because books.

Anderson Cooper has the Dyson guy on, because apparently he just bought one of the vacuums, and now he loves to vacuum. Adorable.


Jesse - Jul 19, 2012 4:52:33 am PDT #14612 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

At least my apartment broker just texted me asking if the building management lady had called me back about signing the lease, which she hasn't. He offered to nudge her. AT LEAST SOME PEOPLE ARE OK.


Sophia Brooks - Jul 19, 2012 4:54:47 am PDT #14613 of 30001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Wait- I missed Jesse getting yelled at! What happened?


Jessica - Jul 19, 2012 4:56:28 am PDT #14614 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I got caught up in Hiro Protagonist casting, because a guy named Hiro is clearly Japanese

And his avatar is a samurai, and I'm pretty sure at one point Stephenson explicitly says that he's Japanese, or maybe that his mother was Japanese. I didn't think there was a lot of room for misinterpretation there.

In real life, names don't tell you much, but when a fictional character's last name is Mao, I assume the authors are trying to tell me something about her nationality.


§ ita § - Jul 19, 2012 5:00:40 am PDT #14615 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hiro Protagonist is actually half Korean half black. I don't think it's actually an argument worth having once someone quotes the book at you, and it's never poor form to quote the book when your casting, even if you're "just" playing casting "games", because most of us will never do more. Why the fuck get mad at someone for using rules?


Jesse - Jul 19, 2012 5:23:37 am PDT #14616 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Wait- I missed Jesse getting yelled at! What happened?

I met the meanest higher-up here for the first time last night, so of course she yelled at me....about things I had no control over. It was slightly upsetting in the moment, but doesn't actually matter, and really the issues weren't my fault at all. So whatever.


Jesse - Jul 19, 2012 5:25:05 am PDT #14617 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

In better news, I am super excited about Downton Abbey getting all the Emmy nominations! It's the only broadcast show nominated for Drama Series AND has at least one person in all of the acting categories!