Giles, if you would like to get by in American society, then you are going to have to follow our traditions. You're the patriarch. You have to host the festivities, or it's all meaningless.

Buffy ,'Sleeper'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


billytea - Jul 12, 2012 7:04:30 pm PDT #13612 of 30001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

He might be the sort of guy that wants to be Robert Downey Jr.

His role in House certainly suggests so.


bon bon - Jul 12, 2012 7:39:41 pm PDT #13613 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I assume they would try to make Hawkeye into a franchise -- may not work, but I don't doubt they'll try.


Cass - Jul 12, 2012 7:43:58 pm PDT #13614 of 30001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I assume they would try to make Hawkeye into a franchise -- may not work, but I don't doubt they'll try.

I am entirely shallow because I would watch that. Unless they made it Natasha and Hawkeye (with some Bucky?) because then I would be in it for way more than the shallow reasons. But those too.


DavidS - Jul 12, 2012 7:47:51 pm PDT #13615 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm pretty sure it would be a Hawkeye/Black Widow movie.


Amy - Jul 12, 2012 8:47:08 pm PDT #13616 of 30001
Because books.

I saw a photoshopped poster for that movie on Tumblr. Budapest: The Movie. I would watch it in a heartbeat.


Jesse - Jul 13, 2012 4:02:38 am PDT #13617 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

WHO CARES WHAT THEY'RE WEARING/ON MAIN STREET OR SAVILLE ROW. IT'S WHAT YOU WEAR FROM EAR TO EAR/AND NOT FROM HEAD TO TOE/THAT MA-HA-HA-HA-TERS!


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2012 4:55:44 am PDT #13618 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I would be surprised if they managed to make Black Widow and Hawkeye franchises separate from each other, or bothered to try. Kinda because the people I'm asking only barely have a concept of Captain America as a character. Those two didn't make a huge impression in a lot of the non-comics people I polled.

Iron Man was a fucking miracle and they owe all sorts of arcane sacrifices to RDJ. Thor and Cap are kinda coasting on that, I feel, but Marvel has managed all sorts of magic out of characters that were not originally iconic. It's amazing.


Tom Scola - Jul 13, 2012 5:02:31 am PDT #13619 of 30001
hwæt

Marvel has managed all sorts of magic out of characters that were not originally iconic.

It’s probably easier for Marvel exactly because the characters aren’t iconic. RDjr can have his own take on Tony Stark exactly because there isn’t a this legacy hampering him.


DebetEsse - Jul 13, 2012 5:04:29 am PDT #13620 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I will pass them along.


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2012 6:01:55 am PDT #13621 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't feel Batman is hampered by legacy--I think some of the previous incarnation of movies were sufficiently dumb that they were sliding by on nothing but legacy. Superman, on the other hand, hasn't worked out how to get rid of "super-powered boy scout" and tell any of the good stories that print has shown possible.