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'Beneath You'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Jul 11, 2012 8:16:37 am PDT #13400 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Stupid browser ate my post. And auto correct tried to imply cunnilingus on behalf of Opera.

Anyway, where was I? Right. My sister's rebuttal was posted in the paper. The comments so far seem to be more than typically stupid, but I'm out of the habit parsing comments since Gawker got its new software. Even more ludicrous is this: [link] -- what does that even mean? Whose point of view is that? Homophobes who don't wasn't to be seem as the bad guys anymore? I had no idea the facts were even up for debate.


Sean K - Jul 11, 2012 8:34:17 am PDT #13401 of 30001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Homophobes who don't wasn't to be seem as the bad guys anymore? I had no idea the facts were even up for debate.

Oh, it's a whole thing lately -- I'm utterly against homosexuality, but I'm not mean or hateful about it, I just don't want to see or hear about it ever, so I'm not a horrible homophobe. Those people are mean and hateful, which is not me. So I am not that. Still, no homos, though.

It breaks my brain to think about, too.


sumi - Jul 11, 2012 8:47:18 am PDT #13402 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

This sounds like something that could be in The Wire.


§ ita § - Jul 11, 2012 8:55:29 am PDT #13403 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't see how a country who clearly counts this: [link] one of its cultural exports can act even slightly coy and claim that displays of het sexuality are taboo...I'd be embarrassed, honestly,to be caught out in such an obvious lie. Now, the author might not approve of such flaunting, but that's not the point. The ship has sailed. "We" do that.


Jesse - Jul 11, 2012 9:08:56 am PDT #13404 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm pretty sure the author there said "kissing and caressing" or something, neither of which I see in your last link!


§ ita § - Jul 11, 2012 9:24:01 am PDT #13405 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It is true that simulated sex acts require neither kissing nor caressing, and that is what the young lady wad presenting for. Consider me appropriately chastened.


Jesse - Jul 11, 2012 9:29:21 am PDT #13406 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

That young lady was just demonstrating her flexibility! (even with bouncing and music...) Sheesh.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 11, 2012 11:26:33 am PDT #13407 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Oh, it's a whole thing lately -- I'm utterly against homosexuality, but I'm not mean or hateful about it, I just don't want to see or hear about it ever, so I'm not a horrible homophobe. Those people are mean and hateful, which is not me. So I am not that. Still, no homos, though.

On another message board I frequent one of the posters put up a long screed about how Anderson Cooper damaged his credibility and impartiality by coming out publicly, and is now desperately flailing about for a legitimate reason that gay people should remain silent about their personal lives unlike their straight counterparts that other posters can't immediately shoot down as a hypocritical double standard. It's almost entertaining to watch.


§ ita § - Jul 11, 2012 11:44:09 am PDT #13408 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not used to reading Jamaican comments, so I wonder if I'm missing some shorthand. I'm also not well versed (har har) in religious comments, so that's no doubt contributing to my confusion. But the comments on my sister's rebuttal by and large make no sense. They seem to depend on you already knowing what side they're on, what side you're on, and anything else they could have to say.

I pointed out that one of the criticisms of her argument was a straw man argument, and she suggested I make it there on the piece itself, and hells no. Not to abandon you, baby sis, but I'm askeered af those there waters. I don't know the rules and I don't know the terrain. I wouldn't know where to start in order to shore up my position.


le nubian - Jul 11, 2012 11:57:56 am PDT #13409 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Matt,

I know you put "almost" in that sentence there, but the quite obvious double standard makes me incredibly uncomfortable. I don't think I have any patience for it any more.